ChiSox59

Damn really thought we were getting baseball tonight.

Theoretically it is a good problem to have. If that were to play out and the NL adds the DH this offseason as widely expected, Yermin is probably traded. Yermin isn't displacing Eloy or Vaughn. I sure hope Mercedes keeps it up, but we're a ways away from that being a reality.

No, I know. Just brainstorming really. The knee jerk reaction is to go out and get some bat to replace Luis/Eloy, but really all that would be doing is displacing Vaughn, Eaton or Mercedes. NEver a bad thing to have too many good hitters I guess, but the Sox need a CF. Not a LF, or DH, or RF. (I know you know this).

The Sox know exactly what Yermin provides behind the plate. And ~20% of the way through the season he has 0 appearances at catcher. Yermin is a DH-only player, and an emergency catcher/1B. He will never be playing defense with any regularity in the big leagues.

Where is this big impact bat going to play moving forward tho? There isn't a ton of room at the inn for a big impact bat - its not like Eloy and Robert are dead. The answer is obviously RF, but just there aren't that many guys that can play CF that are also big time bats we can just shift over to RF in 2022. This is going to just be a patchwork situation in CF. Its truly unfortunate and frankly unlucky situation the Sox have found themselves, but there isn't some perfect fit out there. Gallo isn't perfect player by any means, but he is probably the best fit. But no chance I am giving up any of the guys you mentioned for him.

There is a reason Mercedes hasn't caught a game yet this season. He isn't a major league catcher.

Moving forward, I would do Madrigal, Moncada, TA, Abreu, Mercedes, Grandal, Vaughn, Eaton, Garcia/Hamilton, personally. But the lineup tonight is pretty solid.

They didn't sign Goodwin to be a long term solution. They signed him to try to give them another option in CF until Engel returns or a better option presents itself.

I think we could see Cespedes at some point later this summer, but Sheets and Adolof can't play CF and that is what he need. Gonzalez can play CF, which he why he keeps getting the call, but he also isn't good and likely not a major leaguer.

Yeah, I mean, I think Gallo is a pretty good fit because he can actually play CF for a few weeks until Engel returns and then play RF as well be the RF is 2022. But yeah, for what Texas is going to want in return, I am also a pass on Gallo and would prefer to stick with what we got.

Lol - its been 24 hours. What were you expecting? Oh right, trading Crochet for Bryant!

Agreed, but they are similar offensive players when right. That is the point. Grandal, despite hitting .127, has an .333 OBP because he has an elite eye. Defensively, yah. Grandal has been disappointing. No doubt about it.

At least you're consistent! I will give you that.

He's an upgrade on Luis Gonzalez. Its not like they're handing the dude millions. He'll be kicked to the side as soon as they can find a better option.

You need some weed or something man.

Saw this coming from a mile away. I guess its an upgrade on Gonzalez. Keep bringing guys like this in - stick them in AAA and hopefully 1 hits enough to get a shot, and can bridge us to Engel. I doubt Goodwin is that guy, but he's an option.

Select fans certainly don't like Grandal's .350 career OBP. Why would they like Gallo's career .332 OBP?

He's the RF version of Yasmani Grandal with slightly more power, but a lower career batting average and almost double the Ks. That should go over well with this fanbase!

Most of this board will hate Gallo and his 40% K rate 2 weeks in.

I thought it was a terrible trade yesterday when we discussed, and I still think its a terrible trade today. You don't give up TOR SP prospects for 75% of a season of a player making market value. That is what terrible trades are made of. Of course you can make room for a guy like Bryant in this lineup. The solution is sitting Vaughn, Mercedes or Eaton. He is a good bat that would make the team better, but he doesn't solve the current problem.

Exactly man. If people can't appreciate Grandal's game (and it seems about 80% of Soxtalk is ready to never see him take another AB in a Sox uni), imagine trading away Crochet ++ for Gallo.

Yeah, I'd rather just roll with Leury/Hamilton for the next month until Engel is back than spend clsoe to $40M on 2.75 seasons on washed up Jason Heyward. He's got ~$60M left on his deal as of today. I think the number where it starts to maybe make some sense is Cubs kick in $40M, Sox take on $20M. Taking $40M away from next offseasons budget on Jason Heyward just seems like a terrible use of limited resources. They dude won't even be playing most days once Engel gets back.

Bottom line for me, we probably would be fine if Engel were back. Vaughn-Engel-Eaton OF should be fine most days with Hamilton and Leury filling in. We just need TLR to pull his head out of his ass and actually put Vaughn in LF 90% of the time. Problem is, we won't have Engel for another month. We really need a guy who can cover CF for 4-6 weeks while Engel comes back. I am sure the answer will just be Leury/Hamilton, and I am not sure there is really anything available atm that is better. If I am Hahn, I am just claiming OFs as they become available and sticking them in AAA and maybe some start to hit and when Leury/Hamilton prove incapable rather quickly, we give them a shot. I guess Goodwin is where I would start. Trading Crochet or Kelley or (gasp) Kopech to go get a guy like Gallo or Bryant just doesn't seem wise. Bryant definitely can't play CF, so he really jsut takes ABs away from Vaughn. Gallo I guess could make due in CF for a few weeks - but man, this board is going to hate Gallo's game lol. I like Peralta as a depth move, but again, he's just taking ABs away from Vaughn and is moreso insurance for a future Eaton injury. Doesn't really solve short term problem. Heyward would make some sense, but with a $21M salary and $44M due thru 2023, he his hard pass for me unless Cubs are picking up like 65%+ of that deal. No easy answers, basically. I think you'll see Leury and Hamilton out there most days and maybe someone becomes available down the road. Just need TLR to actually put the best lineup out there daily. I also think we need to move TA into the middle of the lineup and Madrigal up. TA needs to produce runs now. This should be the lineups most days until Engel is back, and hten basically just insert Engel into the 9 hole and CF. Madrigal 2B, Moncada 3B, TA SS, Abreu 1B, Grandal C, Mercedes DH, Vaughn LF, Eaton RF, Leury/Hamilton CF

Huh? Engel is an elite defensive CF.

These injuries are an absolute dagger. But the season isn’t lost. Things just got a ton harder, but the Sox still have a really solid lineup 1-7 and well above average pitching. The division is bad and the Twins are 5 games under .500 and have go 28-22 in their next 50 just to get over .500. The Sox can absolutely still win this division. Likely won’t be easy tho and we’re going to need to see some guys step up and the pen realize their potential.