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Per Sox Twitter. Crochet upper back issue.

THIS. 100% THIS. I don't think 90% of this board realizes how few good all-around catchers there are. It amazes me every single day. Lost in their own world, I guess. Yasmani is a frustrating player to watch, but he's an elite overall catcher. There are few guys who are good defensive catchers and above average offensive producers in the entire history of the game. if you don't like Grandal's game, there isn't a catcher on the planet outside of maybe Realmuto you're going to be impressed with. And Realmuto and Grandal literally produced shockingly similar numbers in 2020.

Fair enough, I won't really argue that. As I said a few mins ago, the defense has been very disappointing. Offensively, I am not too concerned (and definitely not ready to declare him terrible like most of Soxtalk) but its been ugly the first few weeks. No doubt about it.

Was he wearing a harness when he had all the errors pre-injury? Tatis is really good. Not saying he's not. But I'd bet my bottom dollar he isn't a SS long term. Heck, if he keeps playing like he is now, he may not be a SS in a few months.

Except he wasn't average at best last year. He was exactly who he has always been last year. He has been bad so far in 2021. A lot of the stats point to a significant amount of bad luck, but he has been bad. The defense has been much worse than I expected as a whole. Definitely agree there. Good catchers don't grow on trees. Yasmani, despite his faults, is one of the best. The stats bear this out clear as day, whether you want to use them or ignore them. I do hope he figures it out and his luck starts to even out, because the 2021 version has been very bad. But the sample remains very small.

I HATE 7 INNING DOUBLEHEADERS.

Lol, effort isn't the problem with Grandal. And Williams didn't trade Tatis, Hahn did. Tatis is a superstar and that remains a colossal mixture of fuckup and bad luck, but he's also not long for SS. Not sure where he ends up longterm, but it isn't going to be SS or 3B. He leads the league in errors and missed at least 10 games.

I love the common narrative among Sox fans - rip the Sox for not spending enough money (fair compliant). And then rip the Sox for actually spending what it takes to get one of the best catchers in the game that fills multiple needs for the ballclub. "No - don't spend the money that way!" Its comical. I too want the Sox to suddenly become the Dodgers financially, but its not happening.

He doesn't. I too would prefer Madrigal be in the lineup over Leury.

I mean....one of Leury/Hamilton has to play CF....

Not sure if serious or not, but honestly it might if he keeps hitting the ball right at the 2B playing short RF. Honestly, he looks helpless at the plate right now. Pretty disappointing, though I suspect he'll figure it out eventually and end up around where he always does.

I rarely participate in game threads as they're just full of BS and negativity, so I missed this.

I think talking about taking Giolito out prior to the 7th is silly. He is our ace and he had 95 pitches and we're facing the worst offensive in the AL. Had TLR taken him out and brought in Foster or whoever, you'd be ripping him that they took Gio out too early. Now, I definitely think it would have made some sense to pull him after the lead-off walk and long Baddoo at bat. Certainly after the Ramos double. He was definitely left in too long, but taking him out before the 7th even started is wayyyy too quick of a hook.

lol mccann has such a cult following here its hilarious. Yasmani has been really bad in 21 and definitely 100% deserves some criticism for sure. I've been big supporter of his against the meatball takes, but he's been just flat bad in 21. He was fine last year. I do honestly think part of the problem is Sox fans expected a different hitter than Grandal really is. What he did last year is exactly what he's done his whole career, which has made him widely considered one of the best 2-3 catchers in the game, pretty much unanimously. McCann is a really solid defensive catcher that has has produced about 2-3 months of good offensive in his 7+ year career. Career wRC+ of 85. Rag on Yasmani all you want (and like I said, he deserves some flack so far in 21), but he has a career wRC+ of 117. Offensively, they aren't really comparable at all. Defensively, I would agree that Yaz has been pretty disappointing so far in a Sox uni - I certainly expected more. At the end of the day, McCann is in New York and is looking like the offensive producer he's been for 95% of his career. I like the guy - but he isn't some savior.

Hoping we see Robert back today and a series of negative tests.

Grandal has been pretty pitiful this season, but not sure how anyone can say that 7th inning is on Grandal. I am all for trying Collins with Gio the next turn or two, and honestly, at this point Collins probably deserves a few more starts. Grandal outside of some walks is bringing nothing to the table at the moment.

Really? A 1 year gimmick? I’d be surprised if he ISNT managing the Sox next year.

He didn’t ground into half a dozen double plays!

I won’t be too torn up if AV spends a month or so in AAA. I agree he should be playing most everyday if he’s on the mlb roster, and I by no way think he’s received enough PT/ABs. But once Engel is back we can make it work for a few weeks and hopefully let AV get hot in Charlotte. There are other potential benefits, too.

You got it. In that case, I definitely recommend the Dugout Box seats just behind the vistors bench. Definitely will have a great experience there. Have fun!

? Where?

Isn't a hamstring pull?

Set back per article posted earlier today in this thread. Mid may now the return date.

Detroit sucks balls. Still should be an easy series win even without Robert.

No Andrew eh? Feel like he's been playing better lately and the conversion to LF has been going swimmingly IMO.