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2017 Offseason White Sox News, Notes, and Tweets thread
ChiSox59 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 17, 2018 -> 11:36 AM) I have a request. I can't view Twitter at work (where I view Soxtalk). Can people copy/paste Twitter comments etc here, instead of just the link - please? Same request here. -
QUOTE (Jimmy3Putt @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 05:56 AM) As in Iron man Robert? He'll always be French Canadian "RoBay" to me. I prefer the french Canadian "RoBear"....and I am sticking with it!
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QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 11:16 AM) Yes. I have it Eloy, Kopech, (both top 10), Hansen and Robert (both top 50). Then I'd guess Cease around 80 and Dunning just outside MLB.com has already released info that reflected 6 Sox in top 100. So 2 of Cease, Dunning, or Rutherford are in the top 100 after Eloy, Kopech, Hansen and Robert.
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QUOTE (zisk @ Jan 17, 2018 -> 11:19 AM) AE is 26 already. fine glove,great speed. 25th man at best. Why such a deep discussion about a very mediocre talent? Because there is nothing else to talk about?
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2018 -> 10:32 AM) At least in my eyes, Engel hasn't fully been beaten yet, but Leury has passed him. They should both make the roster out of ST, but barring any amazing changes in ST, Leury should be in CF on opening day and Engel should have to earn the position back. This. Leury in CF, Delmonico in LF versus RHP. Leury to LF and Engel to CF late in game defensive replacement. Leury in LF and Engel in CF versus LHP.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 10:37 AM) Who do you want to be the opening day starter: James Shields Miguel Gonzalez This should be a poll question shouldn't it? Give me Gio or Lopez.
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QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Jan 17, 2018 -> 08:10 AM) Can someone copy and paste that article? That link only had the first 2 paragraphs Just subscribe to the athletic. Its worth it.
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QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 01:47 PM) Padres DFA'ed him but he does have an option left. Where do you find info on how many options a player has?
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A transaction!
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Fischer is a pretty awful defender and would have a been a terrible centerpiece for Sale or Q. Glad we went different direction.
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Most valuable prospect out of the Top 15
ChiSox59 replied to KnightsOnMintSt's topic in FutureSox Board
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 8, 2018 -> 10:08 AM) Does he still have any minor league options remaining? He should, but it sure would be great to see a list of guys out of options. -
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 08:04 PM) Maybe $1.7M is a lot of money to you, lol. I am guessing $1.7M is a lot of money to every single person who posts on this site.
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
ChiSox59 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What a boring offseason. -
Speculation - Sox potential landing spot for Ichiro
ChiSox59 replied to knightni's topic in Pale Hose Talk
MEH -
never gonna happen. We have the bullets but it would require most of them. Big time pass here.
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Brewers Acquire Christian Yelich & sign Lorenzo Cain
ChiSox59 replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (ron883 @ Dec 22, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) Solid point. Also an interesting idea. Piggybacking on the salary dump idea- Prado and Chen are the 2 dumpable contracts they have (Prado 2/28M, Chen 3/52M). The Sox have the ability to easily absorb one of them. Yelich is a 4.5 WAR CFer under contract at 5/58M. The guy has crazy surplus value. The Sox take on Prado or Chen and he is still worth an elite prospect and a top 100 prospect. Marlins trade: Yelich Chen Whitesox trade: Leury Garcia Lopez/Giolito one 20-30 ranked sox prospects one 30-40 ranked sox prospect ---- Marlins trade: Yelich Prado Whitesox trade: Leury Garcia Lopez/Giolito Adolfo/Adams two 20-30 ranked sox prospects one 30-40 ranked sox prospect Only thing i question is if I'm overvaluing lopez/giolito in these trades. They have essentially the same amount of control as Yelich, and if they are good, won't be too much cheaper when you consider arbitration years. The marlins need to field some talent, and Leury can help with their loss of outfield and infield players. They get high end prospects as well as some depth. Chen's contract is really bad. He has had Tommy Johns and is having more elbow issues. When you say 20-30 and 30-40, are you referring to in the Sox system, or in the MLB? -
Brewers Acquire Christian Yelich & sign Lorenzo Cain
ChiSox59 replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 22, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) I see Yelich costing considerably more than the Sox (or the fans) would be willing to part with. If he were on any team other than the Marlins, I would agree. But I don't expect Miami to get top dollar for Yelich. But the price is still probably more than I'd be willing to pay. The Sox need to build the remainder of the next contender out of FA, and trading excess prospects in a year or two. Its still too early to make trades like this IMO. -
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 02:50 PM) I'm not suggesting we sign him, but I'm not sure how you can say that ship has sailed when Machado is a year away from free agency? Any team that wants to offer the most money will get him pretty much. I do not know if that should be us. Right. That ship most definitely has not sailed. That's not to say the Sox will offer the most doe, but I suspect that team that does will get him.
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I feel bad for the kid. And the box really had no good reason to be there and unprotected. But I have a hard time seeing him win this one.
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I agree with the OP's opinion. I think we should see what we have with some of our fringey arms. I don't have a problem signing a scrapheap SP or two who some upside, but outside of Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, Shields and Fulmer, and Kopech whenever he is ready, I think the next few opportunities should go to Stephens, Guerrero, Adams, and Cooper. I'd much rather see those guys get some starts then another Pelfrey type.
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 15, 2017 -> 01:06 PM) No go on Anderson. Avi I have no issues at all including. Avi, Stephens and Puckett.
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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 05:53 PM) If it would be pointless, then why not grant the window to increase their return? Why agree to a trade you know is never going to happen when MM and proposed trade partner don’t come to a deal after 72 hours. What does that accomplish?
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QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) Why? It makes perfect sense. He will be in his prime when the white sox have their window to compete. As long as thy are convinced they can sign him to a long term deal, it's perfect. they will have a very low payroll with the young players for the next 5 years. How in the world can you be convinced you can sign him long term? The dude is going to free agency. There is a zero percent chance that anyone that acquires Machado will get him to sign an extension before he reaches free agency. He'd be a complete idiot to sign an extension right now.
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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) I think the White Sox are just playing Pricing Cop to make sure nobody gets him cheap. They're probably legitimately surprised that they're considered a high bidder. Perhaps...but it really makes you wonder what the Sox offer could be. Maybe something like Cease or Fulmer, Adams and Stephens. Gives BAL a few arms that are MLB ready or not terribly far away from the majors without really hurting the Sox all the much. A deal like that I could get behind, and I could see it being something the Sox offered just to see where they stood. With what the Fish received for Stanton/Ozuna/Gordon, they didn't exactly set up a seller's market, so maybe an offer like that actually does get the Sox to the table for 1 year of MM.
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QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 13s The #SFGiants and #Bluejays have talked to the #Whitesox about acquiring outfielder Avisail Garcia, but nothing close If the Sox were actually trying to acquire MM, trading assets Avi and Abreu makes no sense. Not signing any decent relievers makes no sense. You trade for one of the stars of the game on a 1 year deal, you may as well try make the team around him a contender.
