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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:24 AM) Rodon Shields Holland Gonzalez Pelfrey The rotation of a tanking team. It could most definitely be worse.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:32 AM) Padres were reportedly asking about Clint Frazier and Gleyber Torres...which is not happening Wow.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 08:04 PM) What do to with the current pre-arb players (Davidson, Leury, Yolmer, Engel, e.g.) who, hopefully keep improving, will be an interesting part of the next phase of the rebuilding. Will they be part of the plan, traded, etc.? They should be run out there for the next season and a half and see what they are. Leave the kids in the minors and tank hard through 2018.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) Mayo says burger, sheets, and skoug will all be top 100 on new list Does MLB pipeline do a mid season list?

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) Mayo says burger, sheets, and skoug will all be top 100 on new list Wow, that is exciting.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:32 PM) The Yankees just acquired Cooper from the Brewers. Don't think they plan to invest heavily into the position. I don't think the Yanks are dumb enough to think that Garrett Cooper's career year in the PCL bandboxes is their answer to their woes. They may not be interested in giving up long term assets for a 1B, but I certainly think they would be interested in the Abreu.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) I honestly have had few chances to watch, honestly. I took a month off and it was tough. Fair enough. Sox ball is just a put of my nightly routine, and has been since I was kid. I guess I figured most around here were in that same boat.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) And while I don't disagree that his value may never be higher, this is similar to the Quintana quandary this offseason - his value was never at its highest, but the market was not suitable to move him at the time. Once more suitors came into the picture, even with a slightly lower value, Quintana was able to be sold at the overall highest market value. Currently, there are not many teams who appear willing to trade for a 1B, and, as I alluded to earlier, I don't think the Sox will sell him as a 2-3 WAR 1B, but rather a 4-5 WAR 1B because they intrinsically value the leadership he provides the major league club. Outside teams will likely not include that value into their own trade offer for him, and they won't come to an agreement. I won't rule a trade out, but unless the Sox get a top 50 prospect for him, I don't see them moving him. The Yankees need a 1B bad. He doesn't have an albtross contract. They have a nice system that we are surely familiar with. The match is there.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Sure Things Robertson Frazier Swarzak Cabrera Spice It Up & Sell High Kahnle A. Garcia Didn't See That Coming Sanchez Abreu I'll keep saying it. Abreu should definitely be floated. I am not trading him for some backend top 100 types, but if we can get a legit return (and we should be able to), we should trade him.

So you guys have gone all season to this point without watching Sox games? I couldn't do it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:11 PM) Easily Nats. Soto is a top 20 guy, you aren't getting him for a reliever But three of them?

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) The Cubs should've paid Chris Sale price for Jose Quintana is my point. And no, not because of "some silly rivalry", but because of the additional revenue and market share loss the Sox will suffer as a result of this trade, all of which is going to go directly to the Cubs. ....for now.....

So we just assuming we'll see Saladino and Gonzalez called up tomorrow for Willy and Q's spots?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:49 PM) He is literally all power and nothing else. Reminds me alot of Telvin Nash currently. But hey.. here's hoping his hit tool comes through. Some of those scouting reports say he is a pretty good defensive 3B. Not sure why he's played so little of it in the minors.

QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:32 PM) My second thought. Does anyone ever think about that rumored December three team trade involving the Pirates, Yankees and White Sox? I just wonder was Aaron Judge a second piece to that deal? Damn what could have been. Hahn said that this deal was the best deal he has been offered for Q. Period. Guessing that means Judge wasn't in the Yanks deal that fell apart.

QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) I look at the White Sox Pitching Prospects as 2 waves 2017/2018 1. Lopez 2. Kopech 3. Giolito 4. Guerrero 5. Stephens 2018/2019 1.Dunning 2.Hansen 3.Cease 4.Flores I would expect the White Sox to add one more to this group by the July 31st deadline. Also, Put me in the category that Kahlne gets traded for a good package now. I think with what happend to Jones you realize how quickly value could evaporate. Many of us thought that Jones could have equal value to Robertson. I'd put Kopech in the 18/19 pool. There is zero change we see him in 17, and I'd say its unlikely we see him in 18.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Gut reaction is an asset like Q should never be traded to the Cubs, especially without them paying WELL over market value. Not sure how I feel about the return yet, want to do a deeper dig on the prospects before coming to a conclusion there. Who cares about the Cubs? We just got the best OF prospect in the game, plus another guy with TOR potential.

I got Robo next to go.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 09:59 AM) Despite our discussions about trading him, I can't recall a single trade rumor that centered around Nate Jones. There were several rumors out there that he was of interest to many teams, but never really saw names thrown around.

2020. They should tank hard the rest of 17 and 18. Try to be respectable by 2019. By 2020, we need to be good.

Q - you're the f***ing man. Will miss you dearly.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) These trades aren't even over yet! Sure we're not getting another Moncada or Jimenez, but we'll get real value for Robertson, Swarzak, and others. Perhaps not quite top 25 talent, but if the Sox decide to move Abreu, they'll get a really nice return. The Yankees should most definitely be interested. At this point, I say f*** it - trade him. Tank hard the rest of 17 and 18, and be ready to put a respectable product on the field in 2019. Not really sure what Abreu accomplishes on this team at this point.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) FWIW, Cubs Reddit loves this. They say they got what they need and they're probably right. One guy was elated that they didn't need to use Schwarber, Happ or Baez. I would have been disappointed to see either of the top two switched out for any of those three. I wouldn't have hated Happ over Cease, just because we need as many bats as we can get, but I am not at all disappointed.

f*** it, lets go all in. Trade Abreu.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Don't stop get it get it I take it you didn't think we'd be getting Eloy?