TheFutureIsNear

Cease dunning madrigal eloy kopech robert collins hansen Ruthetford Basabe/Micker/González (pick your favorite) Obviously no order to that...but feel good about 5 of them being at least above average players for the White Sox in 2021? Make a good enough core to make the Sox at least perennially in the playoffs?

This is the type of rebuild that will make “The Process” by the Sixers seem like a quick jog around the block....we’re taking the long long way around and crossing our fingers that at least 4 or 5 of the prospects hit their potential as impact players.

1. It’s an old saying for a reason...you spend $ to make $. It wouldn’t make sense for anyone to make a huge investment into the Sox and continue on the same path of losing and embarrassing attendance #’s. 2. We already know the current ownership won’t make big signings. We don’t know what the next ownership group would do. Sounds like a pretty common sense reason to want change if you ask me 3. And finally... If you think the Sox are going to develop enough talent internally to be serious WS contenders then I have ocean front property in Oklahoma you’d be very interested in....

Picked trade for Joc, but not limited to just Joc...there are some other interesting names that could be had, Nick Williams if the Phils sign Harper comes to mind. But expecting our FO to do something creative is probably just misguided thinking. They will likely sign an old guy that won’t work out.

I’m all for not signing any vets and sucking/tanking...but someone needs to eat innings. Our pitching staff sucks now and that’s not factoring injuries or further sucking Rondon Lopez Gio Nova ?? Covey and Stephens. Am I missing someone? Because expecting 900+ innings out of those 5/6 is a pipe dream at best.

Meh he’s not actually a good hitter and his position flexibility doesn’t involve any premium positions. Don’t see why we would have any interest in him...

Pretty weird to me that people are worried about winning 70 games instead of 65...no need to even look at these mediocre vets, they aren’t helping anything. I say lose as many games as humanly possible, setting the record for losses would be my goal. Embarrass the FO and hope for change...+ having the #1 overall pick seems like the only way we’ll ever have a shot at getting a true impact bat

Would he represent a clear upgrade for the Sox? Of course, but I wouldn’t give up a whole lot for him. Especially not at this point thinking he’s going to make any kind of impact on this team. I live in phillies country so see a lot of their games and hear all the talk...Odubel is wildly inconsistent and makes a ton of boneheaded mistakes. If you look at his splits he’s been pretty bad for 1/2 the season the past 2 years. I could definitely see the Phillies giving him up if the right deal comes along, but doubt they are looking to move him either. Nick Williams would make a lot more sense if the Phillies do land Harper.

Counting on the White Sox to develop prospects is just madness. Really any team thinking they are going to develop a large % of their prospects successfully is flawed thinking...but the White Sox??? I have no faith in them developing even 1/2 of these guys.

Being out of town I’m not always privy to the inter-workings of the organization....is there any kind of contingency plan in place for when JR does leave (putting it nicely)? Like this won’t be a Jerry Jones/Al David situation where his entitled kid is 2nd in line with no hope in sight will it?

None...don’t piece together a mediocre team with free agents. Winning 80 games instead of 65 does nothing for anybody. And the REALLY said part is I don’t even know where to go if we can’t sign big free agents. We have very few assets left to sell off and the franchise still has a serious lack of talent. The plan seems to be sit and hope..,I guess? Not sure how this mess gets turned around

Just sad...and damn near fraud.

Wait, is this actually true? They used Yonder Alonso to make phone calls to season ticket holders? Holy crap this gets more embarrassing by the second

We we were never in the derby...the front office is sitting on the sidelines with their thumbs up their asses trying to determine if Bryce has any relatives they can sign

Can’t develop talent and can’t land free agents...this team really is doomed. Thanks to whoever posted about mlb.tv auto renew. Will be sure to cancel that too

Outbid by the padres? Seems impossible. Either manny never wanted to come here or the front office is a complete joke. Take your pick

I’m actually surprised to see nothing about defensive shifts on there. I’m on the fence about the subject but I know a lot of casual baseball fans that complain about it. It kinda ties into my next point... Speeding up the game is important, but I also think figuring out how to get more balls hit into play is important. K rates have gone bonkers. More balls in play leads to more potential excitement all around. Obviously easier said than done, no one is striking out on purpose, but I think most casual fans can’t handle pitchers duels

Unfortunately a rich old white guy being racist is extremely unsurprising. The world will be a better place when more and more people like Ricketts die off. Until then the MLB should separate him AND his $ from the league. And if his poor son can’t finance the team without Daddy’s $, then too bad. I’m sure you won’t find racist emails from Mark Cuban, but he’s “not the type of owner the league wants” ?

My issue with both Gio and Fulmer is that I’m not sure top of the rotation stuff is anywhere to be found at this point. It’s not like they are struggling with consistently or control. They just flat out can’t get batters out...including the minors, which is even more troubling. To me it almost feels like they are trying to figure out problems just to get to 4th/5th starter status. Don’t get me wrong, if 1 of these guys can stay in the roatatuon full time it’s a big plus for the Sox, but given their pedigree and cost it’s a hard pill to swallow that I don’t have faith in either to make it.

Don’t know, maybe I’m overrating Joc, but can’t see someone else not giving up more than a reliever for him. With 500+ AB’s he’s a 3+ WAR player with 2 years of cheap control. What am I missing?

Don’t feel like going through 85 pages...is there or have there been any rumors on what a hypothetical deal would look like? Can’t see anybody on the roster the Dodgers would want...maybe Jones? But what value does he really have until he stays healthy? Would we be talking about a Dunning level prospect probably? Possibly one of Basabe or Micker + ?

Hypothetically... C- Beef/McCann 1B- Jose 2B- Moncada SS- Anderson 3B- Manny LF- Joc CF- Jay/Engel RF- Palka DH- Alonso Luery and Yolmer as super subs That’s actually not too bad if the front office can pull it off. We would still need another SP before we are any kind of real contenders, but definitely reason for optimism

Great deal for the Dodgers...and I guess the Phillies were being literal with their “stupid money” spending. That McCutchen contract looks awful

Tommy Phan and Austin Meadows are getting the majority of AB's in the corners for the Rays. Avi will be battling for off day AB's and DH platoon with Choi most likely.

Have to see what the contract looks like, but if/when there is an opt out it will make it a lot harder to continue with the rebuild. Can’t wait another 2 years if you possibly only have Manny for 4.