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Deadpool has to be a closet Cubs fan. I can't think of any other reason why he'd be such a pretentious douche to everyone if he wasn't a Cubs fan.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 09:26 PM) The Sox have the top pick in the 2017 MLB Draft after finishing the season with a record of 78-84. The last ten players picked with the 12th overall pick: 2016: Jason Groome 2015: Josh Naylor 2014: Kodi Medeiros 2013: DJ Peterson 2012: Gavin Cecchini 2011: Taylor Jungmann 2010: Yasmani Grandal 2009: Aaron Crow 2008: Jemile Weeks 2007: Matt Dominguez This list doesn't look too good, but you never know. Sale was picked 13th after all. Hopefully the Sox target a bat with their first pick if at all possible.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) Why would people be pissed off that you are wearing a Sox shirt? Uh...because everyone else around here are Cubs fans are wearing Cubs stuff. I'm like one of 3 or 4 Sox fans that I know of in my school. I don't really care. I have and always will wear Sox stuff.

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) Go cubs go is back on the radio non stop. Please make it stop. They've played it during every passing period in my school today. It's so annoying. I purposely wore a Sox shirt today to piss people off.

Sorry for your loss. That is an absolutely beautiful dog.

Can the mods open that gigantic Cespedes thread again? I want to see how many more posts we can add to it, lol.

I'd rather have Moore start Game 2 and have Guppy ready in the bullpen.

When I originally read the title, I thought it meant that they were throwing out the first pitch at the Sox home opener next year. Now THAT would have been entertaining.

QUOTE (zisk @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) reason to wait until june for overhaul. NICK CASTELLANO I think most agree that 2016 draft was best SOX draft in forever. if N.C. has a 2017 draft nearly as strong , the farm system may not need a major influent in talent . with spencer adams and erik hanson along with fulmer and burdi the sox could trade Q or Sale for hitting and contend very quickly. Nick Castellanos? He's on the Tigers. Do you mean Nick Hostelter or however it's spelled who's one of the minor league scouts?

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 10:41 AM) I guess one of my biggest questions for planning for the future is how they plan to implement Collins. Realistically, I'm pretty confident he will be on the major league team no later than 2018, so will he be taking over at C or DH? Both are areas of weakness, so replacements are needed, but it's much easier to have a plan on attack for this offseason if you can envision where the team plans to use him. The Sox can go 1 of 3 ways: Go For It -See if Shields bounces back in spring training next year, if not, DFA him. No competitive team can trot him out there every 5th day and hope to play in October. -Sign Jason Castro to a 2 yr contract. Excellent defensive metrics again this season, great framing statistics, poor to mediocre offense which could be offset by the addition of a big bat. -Sign one of Encarnacion or Cespedes. You need another big bat in the middle, Encarnacion is the better bat, but he's older and doesnt provide any defensive value. Plus, if the Sox see Collins as DH, it would make more sense to go Cespedes and move Melky to DH, so you can slide Collins in to replace him after he leaves. For the sake of this exercise, I will say they sign Cespedes. -I think Carlos Gomez gets more offers than expected, so I think it would be beneficial to look at a guy like Rasmus for CF. The offensive numbers weren't really there this season, but he is a plus defender in the OF and with Eaton and Cespedes maning the other 2 positions, the OF defense would be massively upgraded. If he doesn't work out, you can always try with Tilson while Engel gets more seasoning in AAA. -Start Burdi in AAA and bring him up in June or July to provide a shot in the arm to the pen SS Anderson RF Eaton 1B Abreu LF Cespedes DH Cabrera 3B Frazier CF Rasmus C Castro 2B Lawrie/Saladino BE Lawrie/Saladino BE Narvaez BE Tilson BE Davidson? SP Sale SP Quintana SP Rodon SP Gonzalez SP Fulmer/Shields CL Robertson SU Jones SU Petricka RP Jennings RP Putnam RP Fulmer/Shields RP Ynoa? RP ? Buy and Sell This is the route I ultimately think the franchise decides to go. I think Chris Sale's days with the White Sox are numbered and I think they will ultimately do pretty well in a trade for him. I think the team tries to capitalize off that one trade and compete while also planning for the future. -Trade Chris Sale to the Red Sox for Andrew Benintendi, Rafael Devers, Michael Kopech, Eduardo Rodriguez, and Blake Swihart. In this trade, the Sox get someone they covet for some reason in Swihart, they get a stud CF, the eventual replacement for Frazier, a young power arm, and a rotation piece for the present. Fills needs but also builds for the future. -Sign Edwin Encarnacion to offset the loss in pitching. I'd personally go somewhere around 4 yr, $92 million. -Sign Boone Logan as your second lefty in the pen. -Bring up Burdi and really make the bullpen a strength. Shorten the game for the starters and make the bullpen lock down. RF Eaton SS Benintendi 1B Abreu DH Encarnacion LF Cabera 3B Frazier C Swihart 2B Lawrie/Saladino SS Anderson BE Lawrie/Saladino BE Narvaez BE Tilson BE Davidson? SP Quintana SP Rodon SP Gonzalez SP Rodriguez SP Fulmer/Shields CL Robertson SU Jones SU Burdi RP Jennings RP Logan RP Putnam RP Petricka Rebuild This is the hardest to predict. If they start a massive rebuild, I look for Quintana to go to the Dodgers and Sale to go to the Red Sox. I think Frazier, Melky, and Robertson go at the deadline. Lawrie probably goes for a flier piece in the offseason. Great post. You really hit all the scenarios they could go to. Any time Boone Logan gets mentioned, I give a thumbs up. I used to love that guy.

Realistically, who else is gone besides Robin and Steverson if they do clean house?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 10:13 AM) He's not a coach. I doubt he's going anywere. I am sure the bullpen guys, Thigpen and the man Mark Salas, will hang around too. I didn't know if the trainer was considered to be part of the coaching staff or not. My bad.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) Whispers from a charity golf event was that the coaching staff was out excpet Cooper. Including Herm Schneider?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) I would think if they are returning everyone, it would be in there. Wording like that tells me other heads may be rolling. Hopefully Steverson is the next to be canned. What he has done to warrant being in the fold for this long baffles me.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 09:28 AM) Boston and LA aren't giving up that much for Sale and Quintana. If I'm a playoff team, I'd be concern with Sale since he has inevitably faded in the second half each of the past 4 years, and that's without throwing a single pitch in the playoffs. Urias has a chance to be something special, no reason to think he couldn't throw 160 innings next year. He's definitely MLB ready, so he's worth more than Quintana alone. There's only realistically 3-4 guys Dodgers would trade him for, and none of which are pitchers. Urias hasn't proven much of anything at the MLB level. He is certainly not worth more than an established, young ace with team control in Quintana.

Go Giants or Mets! It would be satisfying as hell for the Cubs to lose in the 1st round after having their fans talk so much s***.

Robin is a class act all the way, he just wasn't a good manager. It is what it is. I wish him the best in his future endeavors.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 07:52 PM) Its been done ad naseum. Again, you can choose to ignore it if you like.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 29, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) If they changed the rules that it has to be a pitcher with at least 180 innings, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Then they could make a bigger deal for Reliever of the Year. That would be a good thing to do. But I think in a year where no starter has an ERA under 3, and Britton is perfect in save opportunities for a contending team, with a 0.55 ERA, and an 809 ERA+, I would vote for him. He deserves it under the current rules, and even a lot of advanced stat people agree. It seems like some are trying to make a case for Sale because he's "our guy". Even if it were just for starting pitchers, I doubt Sale would crack the top 3 right now, but I'd like to look at it more closely Sunday night when it's all over. Besides Porcello, Verlander, and Kluber, which AL starters have an argument that they've had a better year than Sale? I don't think he finishes worse than 5th.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 29, 2016 -> 10:18 AM) Even if he does I bet most guys have their votes already in by then. You're probably right, but if he goes out and throws a shutout, or conversely, gets rocked, his ranking will probably change. I really think Porcello will win, even though Sale and even Verlander and Kluber are just as deserving.

Is Sale going to make his last start? That could change his place in the standings.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) On the bright side, maybe Ventura will demand a 4 year deal. We know this organization will be too shy to go past 3 if last year is their new philosophy LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This is a whole new level of loyalty, even for the Sox. Jesus.

QUOTE (Insp @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) And yet earlier this season when the bullpen did get burned out, people like you whined and cried about it. The situation now is a lot different than it was then. There's 6 meaningless games left. Who really cares if the AAAA pitchers get extra work? There's no point in trotting out our ace when he clearly has nothing.

QUOTE (Insp @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 07:43 PM) And burn out the bullpen? They have a gazillion guys out there. Who really cares if Beck and Kahnle have to pitch multiple innings?