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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) I will just imagine the Cubs facing him and Kershaw to open the playoffs and it is all better. This would be awesome. Kershaw/Sale would be one of the best 1-2 duos in the history of baseball IMO. The Cubs couldn't beat those guys 4 times in a 7 game series.

Ozzie Jr. has said that Ozzie Sr. has wanted to be a part of the Sox organization for years, and was willing to be Robin's bench coach. I find it highly unlikely that they have info no one else has.

I'd take Ozzie Jr.'s words with a grain of salt. He hates Hahn and I don't think their family has anything to do with the Sox anymore. I think it's all speculation.

Imagine when the Sox are in Spring Training and Sale is on the other side of the facility in Dodger Blue? Yuck. Just thinking of it makes me angry.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) Sale AND Frazier? Give me Urias, De Leon, Verdugo, Bellinger, Lux, and Puig/Pederson Even that package isn't satisfactory to me, especially for both Sale and Frazier. I'd much rather talk to Boston (or maybe even Houston) and see if something can happen with them first.

I really don't like the Dodgers as a landing spot for Sale from our perspective. Q, possibly, but not Sale.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:10 AM) I'm in a White Sox group chat on twitter. Over the past couple days, Ozzie Guillen Jr has been in there. He came in today and said that he's heard the Sox are close to trading Sale and Frazier to the Dodgers. That's all he had. No idea if it's true or not. Just thought I'd pass along. Are you serious? I don't have access to Twitter right now. I wonder what connections (if any) he has to the organization at this point.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 12, 2016 -> 08:12 PM) Did Lawries twitter profile ever say anything about being with the white sox? Nothing relating to it now His profile used to have a picture of him and Saladino celebrating and it had "South Side Sox" or something along those lines in his bio.

QUOTE (Username @ Nov 12, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) Straight up reading tea leaves here, but people being tight lipped about it makes me feel like something else is in the works. No reason for that if it's just a non-tender situation. Agreed. A non-tender is a fairly inconsequential move, so they would've announced it by now if it was an isolated transaction. I bet a trade is coming next and it wouldn't surprise me if Sale or Q were involved.

Maybe I'm looking too far into it, but he just tweeted this: "Truly a journey" I don't see what the point of non-tendering him would be, so maybe they'll tender and then trade him.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 11, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) It really is. Aside from the 3.5 year age difference, they're numbers are pretty darn close. Due to Abreu's younger age I feel he's worth more than 11M but not much more. If Abreu gets back to his '14 numbers, that's a different story. YOU'RE ALIVE!!! I haven't seen you post here in forever. How's are you?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) This is a petty solid perspective on what Jose Abreu is worth in terms of annual salary. Dude. I don't know what vendetta you have against Jose, but he's worth WAY more than $11 million a year.

But I'm chilling in class not doing anything so it's all good lol.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 01:06 PM) I get people's right to protest but Trump won. What's the point of the protest, it's not going to change a lick... Maybe just maybe these people should have went out and voted so this didn't happen? I don't get it either. Someone found a racist sign in the bathroom too but protesting in school is pointless. They can't do anything to change it.

Probably more than half actually. This is going to get really ugly.

Literally half of my school is protesting over this right now. It's insane. I think ABC 7 is here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) DH's aren't worth nearly as much on the free agent market as actual position players. He'd probably get a contract similar to what Encarnacion will get IMO.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 11:29 AM) Not after last season. Plus, he's essentially a DH to a lot of teams. So what? He'd be one of the best free agents on the market this winter.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 07:43 AM) I don't see Abreu getting THAT big of a return. He said "some". Not all 4 or 5 of their top 100 guys.

As long as he doesn't get America into another war and treats everyone as equal, I'll call his presidency a success.

What's the point of extending Frazier if they're tearing everything down? A veteran leadership role perhaps?

I'm scared and yet excited at the same time.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) Deservedly, he's one of the best radio guys I have ever listened to. Darrin Jackson is better.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) If we deal Sale or Q to Boston, there is literally no good reason not to include Jones to get back another player or two. There is literally no good reason to throw in Jones in a package deal to worsen his value.

QUOTE (FLsouthsider @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 11:38 PM) I've moved into the total rebuild camp because it really is a unique opportunity, but it poses some really interesting questions. First off, I think most of us would agree that it makes sense to hang on to Anderson, Rodon and Eaton. But, of course, everyone has a price and you should always listen to offers. Now, let's say Hahn decides to go full nuclear option. Hypothetically ... They trade Sale and Quintana in megadeals to the Dodgers, Red Sox or Astros. They package Eaton and Abreu to, say, the Nats for God-knows-what. Jones and Melky get sent to San Francisco (OK, OK, so the Giants aren't big Cabrera fans after his PED suspension in 2012, but this is all a fantasy-baseball-esque dreamscape anyway). Robertson goes to a contender. Frazier, Lawrie ... maybe they stay because they don't have tons of value in this market. But maybe Hahn revisits that at the deadline. Avi ... still has zero value. With ALL of those pieces on the move, the White Sox could realistically acquire anywhere from 10 to 25 prospects, a significant portion of them being high level to elite. Now, not all of them are going to be MLB-ready, obviously, and the big-league roster is now essentially bereft of any veteran presence. The interesting thing to me is figuring out how in the heck you go about putting a team on the field for the next two seasons. It reminds me of expansion teams, where they have to feed off the scraps. I mean, it would be one UGLY season, like 50 wins. A season where we're all looking at Charlotte and Birmingham box scores every night. But the wave of talent -- considering it would be buttressed by likely back-to-back top-five picks in '18 and '19 -- arriving over the next two to four years would be IMMENSE. Well, this is typically what happens when a team completely tears it down from the top down. The next few years would be ugly (probably REALLY ugly), but the future would be really bright in theory if they make the right trades.