daggins Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) Rank your trade partners: Yankees Pirates Rockies Rangers Astros Preferred -> Least Pref Yankees Bucs Rox Stros Rags Likely -> Least Likely Stros Bucs Rox Rags Yanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyAcosta41 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) Rank your trade partners: Yankees Pirates Rockies Rangers Astros Pirates/Yankees Rockies Nationals/Red Sox Astros Rangers . . . Schlubbies Edited December 21, 2016 by CyAcosta41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) Now is probably a great time to trade him then. QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:13 PM) When you think Rangers what players are you thinking of? It's more or less that I have an easier time seeing them balking an including Mazara, whereas the Astros seem to think Q sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) Rank your trade partners: Yankees Pirates Rockies Rangers Astros Pirates Yankees Rockies Astros Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) It's more or less that I have an easier time seeing them balking an including Mazara, whereas the Astros seem to think Q sucks. Less that Q sucks imo than amazing confidence that Martes Musgrove and Tucker are all guaranteed all stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) If bucket appears you can bet it is getting close as well. We seriously need bucket or rabbit to drop us a nugget as they could know more than national reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) Rank your trade partners: Yankees Pirates Rockies Rangers Astros I'd bump the Astros ahead of the Rangers, but that pretty much sums it up. Torres or Meadows would be huge gets. Edited December 21, 2016 by Dam8610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Vicente: What kind of prospects Pirates have to offer to get Quintana? Dave Cameron: Would imagine Chicago would want some kind of package built around two of Meadows, Bell, or Glasnow, with some other stuff involved. I'm drooling if this were the case. Of the 3 there, which 2 would you choose? What other pieces would be included with those other 2? For me, I'd easily go Meadows and Bell with Hayes and Escobar as the final pieces. Although, I could see the Pirates be pushing Glasnow and Bell/Meadows plus others because Q would essentially replace him in the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) Assuming Q gets traded, we'll only have one guy guaranteed a spot in our rotation in Rodon. Right now, the only near major league ready guys are Giolito, Lopez, & Fulmer. Once June comes along and if these guys prove they are ready, we'll make room for them. The next wave of guys (Kopech, Adams, Stephens) will be starting the year in AA and probably be ready for a shot at the big leagues until mid 2018 best case scenario. Even if the four guys I previously mentioned all stay healthy and are showing signs of becoming productive major league starters, which is unlikely IMO, we'd still have room for one of these AA arms to crack the rotation. And in the unlikely event we're overloaded with pitching, we can move some of these guys for a bat. I get what you're saying Balta, but I don't think our pitching depth in the upper minors is as overloaded as you think. I don't think it is overloaded yet...but I think it becomes overloaded if you add in one more MLB-ready guy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) Vicente: What kind of prospects Pirates have to offer to get Quintana? Dave Cameron: Would imagine Chicago would want some kind of package built around two of Meadows, Bell, or Glasnow, with some other stuff involved. I'm drooling if this were the case. Of the 3 there, which 2 would you choose? What other pieces would be included with those other 2? Meadows and Glasnow (can never have too many arms). Edited December 21, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 This is coming to a head IMO. I honestly expect it to happen sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I heard that Meadows is unavailable, because they still expect to trade McCutchen, and Meadows would be the heir apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'm so on board with this. Mets get - McCutchen, Robertson Pirates get - Q, Dominic Smith, Nate Jones Sox get - Conforto, Meadows, Bell, Newman, Dunn That would be fair for everyone IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) I heard that Meadows is unavailable, because they still expect to trade McCutchen, and Meadows would be the heir apparent. If so, then Bell, Glasnow, and Newman have to be in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:22 PM) Meadows and Glasnow (can never have too many arms). Meadows and Bell for me. I like Glasnow, but cementing the lineup around the arms we're developing already is exciting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) Meadows and Bell for me. I like Glasnow, but cementing the lineup around the arms we're developing already is exciting to me. Same. Glasnow could be special, but getting those bats and a nice cheap offense could do wonders for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) This is coming to a head IMO. I honestly expect it to happen sooner than later. Same here. It's very interesting that Pitt had an article about Q on their MLB site. Could be a slow leak while med reports are exchanged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 is it at all possible that a sub-par White Sox team affects Quintana's value if he goes into the season as the #1? i mean what if the wheels come off because of a crappy team surrounding him and he has a bad year...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 After reading around, sounds like a lot of Pittsburgh fans think Keller is as good of a prospect as Glasnow, just may not be recognized nationally as such yet. Meadows, Bell, Keller and Elias Diaz would have me very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 is it at all possible that a sub-par White Sox team affects Quintana's value if he goes into the season as the #1? i mean what if the wheels come off because of a crappy team surrounding him and he has a bad year...? Yes, but that's thinking wayyyy too much. Either trade him now, in this perfect market for him, or let him do his thing per usual with the Sox. He'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) I'm so on board with this. Mets get - McCutchen, Robertson Pirates get - Q, Dominic Smith, Nate Jones Sox get - Conforto, Meadows, Bell, Newman, Dunn That would be fair for everyone IMO. I could see something more along the lines of: Mets get - McCutchen, Jones Pirates get - Q, Conforto Sox get - Meadows, Bell, Newman, Gsellman, Dunn/Plawecki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 12:31 PM) is it at all possible that a sub-par White Sox team affects Quintana's value if he goes into the season as the #1? i mean what if the wheels come off because of a crappy team surrounding him and he has a bad year...? Then he'd likely have another 24 no decision season or something like it and still have a metric s*** ton of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:31 PM) is it at all possible that a sub-par White Sox team affects Quintana's value if he goes into the season as the #1? i mean what if the wheels come off because of a crappy team surrounding him and he has a bad year...? FIP is a stat that takes team defense into account when evaluating a pitcher Quintana's career FIP of 3.47 is excellent He is certainly a top 20 mlb starting pitcher, no matter how you slice it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) I could see something more along the lines of: Mets get - McCutchen, Jones Pirates get - Q, Conforto Sox get - Meadows, Bell, Newman, Gsellman, Dunn/Plawecki How are the Pirates trading McCutchen and Meadows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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