iamshack Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Real @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:22 PM) unless we are paying the remainder of his contract to get another piece added Wouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Reed is falling in value; I know a lot of people here like him,but his 1/4 season really wasn't good. I might go for more volume here, assuming no Bregman. Astros have a lot of really good, but not elite, prospects, particularly position players. Edited December 8, 2016 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) Reed is falling in value; I know a lot of people here like him,but his cup of coffee really wasn't good. I might go for more volume here, assuming no Bregman. Astros have a lot of really good, but not elite, prospects, particularly position players. You must hate Giolito and Moncada then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:20 PM) He also says they cant come to agreement on who will pay salary, which makes no sense. Q is cheap. So are the Astros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:16 PM) No clue who this person is but: https://twitter.com/ShutdownInning/status/806676420177051651 "Hearing Quintana to the Astros is "all but done." Working out a couple of kinks in the last hour. No word on pkg to CWS. #Astros #WhiteSox" He is also tweeting the White Sox are eating salary. He is full of s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:21 PM) You said Rodgers + 2 or 3. We're in disagreement by one body. Okay, + 2 or 3 lesser ceiling or lesser performance guys. No chance you get 4 or 5 players of Rodgers caliber or ceiling for Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) Reed is falling in value; I know a lot of people here like him,but his 1/4 season really wasn't good. I might go for more volume here, assuming no Bregman. Astros have a lot of really good, but not elite, prospects, particularly position players. Yeah, Reed is tough to measure. Was reading an astros prospect list that already dropped him to five. This is the same group that saw Singleton fall. That said, Sox do not have a 1b prospect worth a damn. Would love astros, would love Albies/Meitan deal from braves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:25 PM) He is also tweeting the White Sox are eating salary. He is full of s***. right you know more than a local reporter that has almost 4K followers on Twitter. Honestly you are one of the worst posters I have ever come across in 10+ years of heavy sports message board reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) Reed is falling in value; I know a lot of people here like him,but his 1/4 season really wasn't good. I might go for more volume here, assuming no Bregman. Astros have a lot of really good, but not elite, prospects, particularly position players. I personally wouldn't mind seeing Q and Abreu sent together if thats what it takes to pry Bregman+++ Anderson / Moncada# Bregman / Fisher* Collins* A man can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) Reed is falling in value; I know a lot of people here like him,but his 1/4 season really wasn't good. I might go for more volume here, assuming no Bregman. Astros have a lot of really good, but not elite, prospects, particularly position players. Same argument's been made regarding Giolito. I don't buy small samples, TBH. Reed was a top 20 prospect heading into 2016, with almost never before seen production in the Minors. Edited December 8, 2016 by Ro Da Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:22 PM) This is a perfect call for the type of players I would want to see us targeting. He was described as a generational talent, yet because of his age, he is WAY down the lists and rankings. But a guy like that should be a huge target. So you're criticizing the org for taking top notch value because it's not who you want, but who you want are 17 year olds that have every possible chance along the way to bust but have high ceilings because you don't trust the org to develop position players. Can you please make sense of your position? I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:28 PM) So you're criticizing the org for taking top notch value because it's not who you want, but who you want are 17 year olds that have every possible chance along the way to bust but have high ceilings because you don't trust the org to develop position players. Can you please make sense of your position? I can't. We.Need.Postitional.Talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:25 PM) He is also tweeting the White Sox are eating salary. He is full of s***. Agreed, sounds like he is.making s*** up with that comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Sox pick up part of that salary if it increased the return in the trade. Eating half of the money owed would be less than $20MM in the next 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:25 PM) He is also tweeting the White Sox are eating salary. He is full of s***. it's possible we are sending somebody with Q maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) We.Need.Postitional.Talent. There.Are.More.Trades.Coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:27 PM) Same argument's been made regarding Giolito. I don't buy small samples, TBH. Reed was a top 20 prospect heading into 2016, with almost never before seen production in the Minors. Yeah, he had 45 games though and it was awful. No bright stretches at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) We.Need.Postitional.Talent. Multi. year. rebuild, stop melting down about a pitching heavy fleece on day two. Edited December 8, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:26 PM) right you know more than a local reporter that has almost 4K followers on Twitter. Honestly you are one of the worst posters I have ever come across in 10+ years of heavy sports message board reading. Yeah the hold up is how much of Q s comtract the Sox are eating. LMAO if you buy that. Edited December 8, 2016 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) We.Need.Postitional.Talent. I.Get.That.There.Are.At.Least.Three.Drafts.Between.Now.And.A.Competitive.Team.Not.To.Mention.The.201 8.Free.Agent.Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:29 PM) We.Need.Postitional.Talent. We.Get.It.You.Need.The.Rebuild.Done.Immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Sox pick up part of that salary if it increased the return in the trade. Eating half of the money owed would be less than $20MM in the next 4 years. Quintana is cheap, we won't be picking up a dime of his deal. Reed scares me as he was awful in 48 games, hardly a small sample size. He was especially bad against lefties. The Astros might want to trade him now because another performance like that will sink his value again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) Reed is falling in value; I know a lot of people here like him,but his 1/4 season really wasn't good. I might go for more volume here, assuming no Bregman. Astros have a lot of really good, but not elite, prospects, particularly position players. Mike Trout was s*** in his first cup of coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I really doubt we are close with Astros, we had so much more smoke immediately with Eaton/Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) We.Get.It.You.Need.The.Rebuild.Done.Immediately. Get.The.Biggest.Laser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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