iamshack Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 03:13 PM) They can with surgery. One guy who came back from it is that real good shortstop who played for Braves and Dodgers ( can't place his name). Todd Helton came back and played a few more years. Both had their back problems in 2009. Furcal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ May 20, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) The guy had a herniated disk last year, right? I don't think those things just "go away." I've had two of them... they suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I believe Ivan Calderon had one, tried to play through it, eventually had the surgery and came back strong the next year. Whatever happens, I wish the best for Saladino: the guy is a ball player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 05:13 PM) They can with surgery. One guy who came back from it is that real good shortstop who played for Braves and Dodgers ( can't place his name). Todd Helton came back and played a few more years. Both had their back problems in 2009. Surgery is the last option. It's much better to try conservative interventions first. Once the anatomy is altered with surgery it's a flip of the coin. Look at Crede for one on the downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 06:16 PM) I believe Ivan Calderon had one, tried to play through it, eventually had the surgery and came back strong the next year. Whatever happens, I wish the best for Saladino: the guy is a ball player. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I had a love affair for Saladino but I'm over him. I do feel sorry for him having a bad back, don't wish that on anybody. But I've given up on him being a good major leaguer. I thought he could hit .315 in his sleep over 500 at bats. I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 03:25 AM) I had a love affair for Saladino but I'm over him. I do feel sorry for him having a bad back, don't wish that on anybody. But I've given up on him being a good major leaguer. I thought he could hit .315 in his sleep over 500 at bats. I was wrong. Â Well it's hard to hit.315 when you're on the DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Regardless we are going to have a boatload of IF'ers. Leury, Yolmer, Hansen and Saladino plus Moncada coming up at some point. Not to mention our SS Anderson Edited June 28, 2017 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 11:35 PM) Regardless we are going to have a boatload of IF'ers. Leury, Yolmer, Hansen and Saladino plus Moncada coming up at some point. Not to mention our SS Anderson I think Sanchez or Leury gets traded at the deadline. I don't know how else playing time will work once Moncada is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) A lot of guys here fell in love with him, but most of the smarter minds took Saladino for what he is: a solid utility player. Edited June 28, 2017 by Sox-35th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Going to be some tough decisions when Leury and Saladino get healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) A lot of guys here fell in love with him, but most of the smarter minds took Saladino for what he is: a solid utility player. Â Congrats on the debilitating back injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:01 AM) Going to be some tough decisions when Leury and Saladino get healthy. Â Â Ehh. Willy goes down. By then Frazier should be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) A lot of guys here fell in love with him, but most of the smarter minds took Saladino for what he is: a solid utility player. I really don't think that many people saw his as a long term solution as a starter. Â PS: Might want to reduce the general insults on other posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) A lot of guys here fell in love with him, but most of the smarter minds took Saladino for what he is: a solid utility player. Â You win some you lose some. I'm sure you've been wrong more than you've been right. Â Edit: I've actually only ever said he could probably be a starting 2B/SS on a stacked offensive team that could carry his glove in the 9-spot. Edited June 28, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:02 AM) Congrats on the debilitating back injury. Â Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I love/d saladino. He was the one that proved to me that the production that we could get from our not that great AAA replacement players wasn't that different than the 1-year deal vets we kept stuffing the roster with. He 100% maximized his baseball talent level. I also don't think I ever intimated that he was more than a very useful player that played 3 positions well and showed surprising power and baseball IQ that stood apart. We didn't need to sign gordon beckham or bonifacio anymore. Â But a player like that also has no room for error unfortunately. And I just think backs are more likely than not to really disrupt play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:22 AM) I love/d saladino. He was the one that proved to me that the production that we could get from our not that great AAA replacement players wasn't that different than the 1-year deal vets we kept stuffing the roster with. He 100% maximized his baseball talent level. I also don't think I ever intimated that he was more than a very useful player that played 3 positions well and showed surprising power and baseball IQ that stood apart. We didn't need to sign gordon beckham or bonifacio anymore. But a player like that also has no room for error unfortunately. And I just think backs are more likely than not to really disrupt play.  Yeah back issues are no fun and seem to linger and end guys' careers sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:02 AM) Congrats on the debilitating back injury. He was a 1.3 WAR prior to his back injury. He's a guy. We know that already. Edited June 28, 2017 by Sox-35th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:24 AM) He was a 1.3 WAR prior to his back injury. He's a guy. We know that already. Â A 1.3 WAR player would fit amongst the upper tier of Sox players over the past decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) A lot of guys here fell in love with him, but most of the smarter minds took Saladino for what he is: a solid utility player. Â I bet you actually hurt your back trying to pat yourself on the back again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) A 1.3 WAR player would fit amongst the upper tier of Sox players over the past decade. That's an indictment of the White Sox, not really an endorsement for Saladino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:24 AM) Yeah back issues are no fun and seem to linger and end guys' careers sooner. Â I will never understand people who get so much joy out of I told you so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) I will never understand people who get so much joy out of I told you so. I'm nearly certain you were among the people who thought Saladino was a nice piece but not a starter on a WS contender. I could be wrong, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) I will never understand people who get so much joy out of I told you so. Â Yep, childish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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