3 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said:

That number is complete bullshit as it relates to cost opportunity and FA. I don't know even why it's used. McCutchen was worth around 3 WAR last year he is not getting paid 27 million.

He put up 2.6 last year and over the past 3 seasons total he has put up 7.4, so 2.4-2.5 is literally "exactly what he's been doing the last few years with no decline". If you factor in a little bit of decline, then the Phillies just spent $50 million for something like 6 projected WAR. 

1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said:

I don't buy the specifics of it. Just a lot of smoke about the Sox being quietly confident from various posters

Actual true story: A good friend of mine from college works in the front office of an NBA team, and he told me they would never tell anything to anyone outside of upper management until the ink was basically dry. 

7 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Not to be that guy so when I say take it FWIW, I mean TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, but my coworker's sister works for the Sox and said that the Sox have told their office people to contact all of the Chicago teams to get jerseys ready for Harper and Machado and they were evidently all asked to take small pay cuts to make these moves...yes, MOVES... easier.

Man, no offense, but that is really hard to believe 

15 minutes ago, Scoots said:

Seriously...but still with Phillies signing Cutch...HMMMMMMM

Hope it's for stupid money .

Just now, iWiN4PreP said:

Phillies have McCutchen, Odubel, Alther (sp) and Nick Williams in the OF. I'm not too familiar with the last 3 other than Odubel had a great start to last year but finished flat, and the other two were hot on and off. 

Seems to me that they'd be out on Harper with this move and would look to shore up other positions, but I guess if they have tons of money...

 

Yeah those last 2 definitely shouldn't block a Harper move. Plus they can deal any of the 3 I suppose.

Just now, Eminor3rd said:

Man, no offense, but that is really hard to believe 

They are not telling office people to take pay cuts to pay the way for acquisitions.    

9 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Not to be that guy so when I say take it FWIW, I mean TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, but my coworker's sister works for the Sox and said that the Sox have told their office people to contact all of the Chicago teams to get jerseys ready for Harper and Machado and they were evidently all asked to take small pay cuts to make these moves...yes, MOVES... easier.

This is obviously fake, but I can't tell if you made this up to be funny or if somebody actually told you that. If you made it "coworker's sister's mailman", then it would have been a dead giveaway for you just being funny.

14 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Not to be that guy so when I say take it FWIW, I mean TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, but my coworker's sister works for the Sox and said that the Sox have told their office people to contact all of the Chicago teams to get jerseys ready for Harper and Machado and they were evidently all asked to take small pay cuts to make these moves...yes, MOVES... easier.

Who take pay cuts harper and machado

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Hope it's for stupid money .

3/$50m

How much money would the pay cuts even save anyway? Just makes zero sense.

Just now, peavy44 said:

Who take pay cuts harper and machado

JFC

Just now, OmarComing25 said:

How much money would the pay cuts even save anyway? Just makes zero sense.

$25K! Enough to pay an attorney to draft the contract! 

Guys, it was obviously a joke.

1 minute ago, OmarComing25 said:

How much money would the pay cuts even save anyway? Just makes zero sense.

But not zero cents 

Only way I can see the pay cuts thing (if the poster was serious) is whoever made the call or sent an e-mail was joking because they'd be spending so much money.

Edited December 11, 20187 yr by Sockin

I saw a rendering of Bryce in a Phillies jersey...not gonna lie but that looks good 

Just now, Balta1701 said:

He put up 2.6 last year and over the past 3 seasons total he has put up 7.4, so 2.4-2.5 is literally "exactly what he's been doing the last few years with no decline". If you factor in a little bit of decline, then the Phillies just spent $50 million for something like 6 projected WAR. 

That only works if you throw in a sinker like McCutchen did in 2016. You take the average of the last two years and normalize it to 650 PA you end up with 3 WAR. In any case there will be even more extreme examples as FA goes along

3 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

Guys, it was obviously a joke.

I vote to ban you until Harper and Machado sign now..  

36 minutes ago, bmags said:

Hey guys, if you were not a white sox fan, would you bet on the white sox signing harper or Machado?

If I were more of a gambler, and looked at the scenario as it is, I might. Especially if I was given nice odds. But I wouldn't bet a lot.

3 minutes ago, Baron said:

I saw a rendering of Bryce in a Phillies jersey...not gonna lie but that looks good 

Someone has to show Bryce the rendering of himself in a Sox uniform.

9 minutes ago, maggsmaggs said:

Honestly cannot even tell if this is pure sarcasm.

Christ, you all thought I was serious? Between all of this shit and Peavy44's nonsense, I just had to be an asshole. I mean, why don't we all just stop trusting our aunt's cousin's friend's dead grandpa and let it play out. Unless Kurkjian, Olney, etc say it, it isn't done.

What's next, an update on where Harper took a piss?

1 minute ago, cjgalloway said:

I vote to ban you until Harper and Machado sign now..  

I wasn't the one who said it lol

Just now, wrathofhahn said:

That only works if you throw in a sinker like McCutchen did in 2016. You take the average of the last two years and normalize it to 650 PA you end up with 3 WAR. In any case there will be even more extreme examples as FA goes along

So if McCutchen outperforms his projections this could be as cheap as $7 million per fWAR. That's literally exactly what I'm saying - $40 million a year is basically right now a 5-5.5 fWAR player, not 7-10.

6 minutes ago, OmarComing25 said:

How much money would the pay cuts even save anyway? Just makes zero sense.

Merry Xmas mofo's !!

7 minutes ago, peavy44 said:

Who take pay cuts harper and machado

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