November 19, 20196 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: They’re going to have to spend some real money on someone. Wheeler and/or Grandal are the ones that make the most sense. The Sox are short hitters in this game. Best o luck tho.
November 19, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, pcq said: The Sox are short hitters in this game. Best o luck tho. So you think the Sox are going to have a payroll under $90M?
November 19, 20196 yr 19 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: So you think the Sox are going to have a payroll under $90M? Expect? No. I do think it's a legitimate possibility though.
November 19, 20196 yr Just now, mqr said: Expect? No. I do think it's a legitimate possibility though. There is a 0% chance that the Sox payroll is under $90M. I would bet every dollar I have on that.
November 19, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, mqr said: Expect? No. I do think it's a legitimate possibility though. Remember how easily the White Sox wasted $40 million last offseason?
November 19, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Remember how easily the White Sox wasted $40 million last offseason? If they end up striking out at the B+ tier, I fully expect them to do the find warm bodies thing again and end up <100 mil
November 19, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, mqr said: If they end up striking out at the B+ tier, I fully expect them to do the find warm bodies thing again and end up <100 mil I could see a warm bodies offseason of something like Calhoun, Encarncaion, Wacha and Wood. The team's payroll would still be over $90M in that scenario. To be clear, I am not in the slightest bit advocating for anything resembling that offseason - it would be truly disgusting - but there is no way the Sox aren't spending $40M+ in new AAV on FA/trades this winter.
November 19, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: There is a 0% chance that the Sox payroll is under $90M. I would bet every dollar I have on that. And you would certainly win that bet because once we sign Cole, we'll already be over 90 million.
November 20, 20196 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: So you think the Sox are going to have a payroll under $90M? Thinking more whether they would outbid 3-4 teams for a guy. Don't build me up Buttercup. I hear the Dodgers will be spending. No worries about the Red Sox. Can Rick pull the trigger or is that Kenny's game.
November 20, 20196 yr 9 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: I could see a warm bodies offseason of something like Calhoun, Encarncaion, Wacha and Wood. The team's payroll would still be over $90M in that scenario. To be clear, I am not in the slightest bit advocating for anything resembling that offseason - it would be truly disgusting - but there is no way the Sox aren't spending $40M+ in new AAV on FA/trades this winter. Does that $40 million include Abreu's raise if he ends up ultimately accepting the QO?
November 20, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Does that $40 million include Abreu's raise if he ends up ultimately accepting the QO? He already accepted it.
November 20, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Does that $40 million include Abreu's raise if he ends up ultimately accepting the QO? No. And as Sleepy said, its been accepted.
November 20, 20196 yr What I meant was if he ACTUALLY ends up with that $17.8 million one year salary, rather than the reported 2/$25-30 or 3/$40-45 million extensions that were being negotiated (and probably still are).
November 21, 20196 yr Man would it be nice for an early Grandal signing to really set the tone for this offseason.
November 21, 20196 yr Grandal & Wheeler would be a legitimate perfect offseason for me. Figure out RF via trade. Those two fill two very obvious and holes. Grandal 4/68 Wheeler 5/95 Sign me up. Edited November 21, 20196 yr by Soxnfins
November 21, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Soxnfins said: Grandal & Wheeler would be a legitimate perfect offseason for me. Figure out RF via trade. Those two fill two very obvious and holes. Grandal 4/68 Wheeler 5/95 Sign me up. I wouldn't want to go much higher on that Grandal contract at all. But I could go higher on Wheeler. That too is kind of my ideal offseason now too
November 21, 20196 yr 30 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: I wouldn't want to go much higher on that Grandal contract at all. But I could go higher on Wheeler. That too is kind of my ideal offseason now too Yeah that's about top on the Grandal deal, I think 16-17MM per is his market, especially without a QO attached. I still think the Sox try to keep Wheeler under $100MM, but that's jmo. Edited November 21, 20196 yr by Soxnfins
November 21, 20196 yr I like where you guys are going. My views have adjusted in the past few weeks. I'd be ok with Grandal + Wheeler as an offseason. I'm really coming around on N. Castellanos as well. I like Castellano's age and his hitting ability. Would be OK to have an OF of Cast + Eloy + Roberts and an IF of Grandal/Abreu/Madrigal/Anderson/Moncada. No weak spots there, just a lot of youth inconsistency and of course suspect defense. Pitching we'd have Giolito/Wheeler/Kopech/Lopez/Cease which can be decent if Kopech/Cease/Lopez develop. Then maybe we ought to sign a RP or two. Edited November 21, 20196 yr by iWiN4PreP
November 22, 20196 yr Castellano and Eloy in the OF together with a rookie in between could cause our young rotation some headaches
November 22, 20196 yr On 11/5/2019 at 1:26 AM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: What does that matter? He would be the same age in 2020, whether we signed him in 2020 or back in 2019. Except we now have our 2nd RD pick RHP Matthew Thompson in our system, whom we would have had to forfeit the right to draft in 2019 if we signed Grandal last year. If the Sox sign Grandal this off-season, that would be the best case scenario we could have had with him. Best case scenario just happened my friends. This was brilliant. ??
November 22, 20196 yr Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Best case scenario just happened my friends. This was brilliant. ?? Thanks milwaukee
November 22, 20196 yr On 10/31/2019 at 9:09 PM, poppysox said: I said #1 position player. The forum has beaten to death the starting pitchers, RF, DH and RP's needs and I have commented numerous times on the various possibilities. My feeling is that Grandal/McCann/Collins handles the DH problem while upgrading the catching. I am not a big fan of one dimensional DH types. For those who told me I was going to be disappointed...I'm not.
November 22, 20196 yr On 11/21/2019 at 6:07 AM, Soxnfins said: Grandal & Wheeler would be a legitimate perfect offseason for me. Figure out RF via trade. Those two fill two very obvious and holes. Grandal 4/68 Wheeler 5/95 Sign me up. Wasn't too far off I suppose.
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