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Successful Plan B; What’s Next?

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Sign Bumgarner and Puig and have them team up with Anderson for the All Attitude Team.

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1 minute ago, hogan873 said:

Sign Bumgarner and Puig and have them team up with Anderson for the All Attitude Team.

Can't wait for Madbum to yell at them when they make an error or celebrate a home run for too long.

I think Bumgarner is going to be a productive pitcher. I think mapping HR stats isn't how things work (you don't play all games in one stadium and he may very well pitch to San Frans stadium, and he's smart as hell)

That said...this is not the level of pitcher I wanted. We will still need to grind to find a TOR starter or get lucky. 

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

I think Bumgarner is going to be a productive pitcher. I think mapping HR stats isn't how things work (you don't play all games in one stadium and he may very well pitch to San Frans stadium, and he's smart as hell)

That said...this is not the level of pitcher I wanted. We will still need to grind to find a TOR starter or get lucky. 

If you sign Bumgarner and Manfred decides to unjuice the ball, then you'll get lucky. 

Is Nova available?

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6 minutes ago, bmags said:

I think Bumgarner is going to be a productive pitcher. I think mapping HR stats isn't how things work (you don't play all games in one stadium and he may very well pitch to San Frans stadium, and he's smart as hell)

That said...this is not the level of pitcher I wanted. We will still need to grind to find a TOR starter or get lucky. 

Yep. The productiveness of Kopech and Cease are going to play a HUGE part in our success over the next few years. That obviously would have still been true if we signed Wheeler, but we really need one of those two guys to be a #1 or #2 type pitcher.

or get on the phone with Julio Teheran 

I really am at a loss about who they pivot to now.  They signed Grandal showing that they were serious this offseason.  They obviously really targeted and thought they were going to get Wheeler with the reported offer.  I do not think this is the time yet to trade away significant assets to get starting pitching, but they really need starting pitching. 

Just wait until next week when the Sox get Martinez and Price. 

Sign Ryu, resign Rodon, keep one in bubble wrap until the other gets injured then swap. Between the two of them we'd have an excellent 200IP ?

We're going to end up with fucking Bundy and Keuchel aren't we

2 minutes ago, Sockin said:

Just wait until next week when the Sox get Martinez and Price. 

Price +Benintendi+ $30 million  I'd consider.  

Just now, BackDoorBreach said:

We're going to end up with fucking Bundy and Keuchel aren't we

Nope, Keuchel and PEDneda. 

13 minutes ago, bmags said:

I think Bumgarner is going to be a productive pitcher. I think mapping HR stats isn't how things work (you don't play all games in one stadium and he may very well pitch to San Frans stadium, and he's smart as hell)

That said...this is not the level of pitcher I wanted. We will still need to grind to find a TOR starter or get lucky. 

I’m not totally against Bumgarner, but he clearly lacks the TOR upside of Wheeler and his $100M rumored price is scary.  But honestly, not sure what else we can do.  Ryu is interesting, but if people thought Wheeler was an injury risk I don’t know what they see in this guy.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m not totally against Bumgarner, but he clearly lacks the TOR upside of Wheeler and his $100M rumored price is scary.  But honestly, not sure what else we can do.  Ryu is interesting, but if people thought Wheeler was an injury risk I don’t know what they see in this guy.

Bum is one guy who I think is not going to get his asking price. I still think he's more 85-88 range, so marginal but still I don't think he is a big escalating bidding war guy. I do wonder if he goes back to san fran if he doesn't get what he wants.

I'd be fine with Ryu and Wood at this point. 

28 minutes ago, bmags said:

Bum is one guy who I think is not going to get his asking price. I still think he's more 85-88 range, so marginal but still I don't think he is a big escalating bidding war guy. I do wonder if he goes back to san fran if he doesn't get what he wants.



His best case scenario is the Sox and Twins vying for his services.  Divisional opponents going after the same FA always helps to pump up the price tag a bit.  

35 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said:

We're going to end up with fucking Bundy and Keuchel aren't we

 

14 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said:

 

Worse, Porcello and Keuchel.

Cole or Strasburg.  Go ahead with your little laugh emoji

I dunno, Marco Gonzalez? He's more of a mid-rotation guy but he's got pretty similar peripherals to Bumgarner and is much younger. There isn't much to the trade market, tbh.

2 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

Cole or Strasburg.  Go ahead with your little laugh emoji

I think they'll be involved but only up to a point. If the Yankees and Angels are involved, the money is going to get nuts pretty quick.

Strasburg. Should have been #1 priority all offseason and now...He HAS to be. Best case scenario is that MadBum signs with the Twins or Angels and that leaves Stras and Cole for Sox and Yankees respectively. 

I just don't knw what to do now with the Starting Pitching (realistically)

is there any rumors to MadBum to the Angels?  That would be ideal to up our chances to Stras.... No way twins would go that high for him

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