Like Molina but would rather resign McCann for less $$$.

27 minutes ago, Orlando said:

Love this idea!  I read into it that you are basically getting a backup catcher, an additional pitching coach mentor, and possibly your next manager when he retires and so does Tony in a couple years.  I'm in.

 

My worst nightmare.

I think Yadi would be worse for the #changethegame culture than Larussa by a lot.

6 minutes ago, bmags said:

I think Yadi would be worse for the #changethegame culture than Larussa by a lot.

And would wind up playing way too much

Would LOVE Ozuna. He showed last year what kind of hitter he really is. 

He would destroy with the White Sox.

Terrible fielder tho and we really could use a left hander... but my god Ozuna can rake. .300++ hittter with huge power. 

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

And would wind up playing way too much

Grandal catching less is a good thing.  

13 minutes ago, fathom said:

And would wind up playing way too much

Bingo, that's the biggest issue here.  Yadi ain't going anywhere to be a backup catcher.  This is an awful idea and an awful fit.

Yadi on the 2020 McCann plan would be cool with me. Especially if they don't plan on signing a DH. 

There is zero reason for Yadi to come here.

Just now, RagahRagah said:

There is zero reason for Yadi to come here.

1. He is a FA

2. The Sox need a catcher

3. His former manager now manages the Sox

He's not the best fit but it definitely isn't zero reason.

Yadi wants a 2 year deal, will want to catch 75 percent of the time, can’t hit, whines when he doesn’t play and then we’re blocking Vaughn basically from playing at all this season if you’re not moving Grandal.  It’s a bad idea.

2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I'm sure you know he could be pulling our legs.

I’m not Cishek but I was an attendee during Phil Humbers perfect game in Seattle. Got a free ticket from The Shell Oil Corporation.

51 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Grandal catching less is a good thing.  

It’s just not feasible with this roster though. Grandal has to catch 120+ plus games if Abreu and Vaughn are on the team. 

Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said:

It’s just not feasible with this roster though. Grandal has to catch 120+ plus games if Abreu and Vaughn are on the team. 

Yeah it’s just not a fit.

The Sox need another catcher for about 40 to 50 games.  Find yourselves a defensive specialist if you don't like Collins/Mercedes/Zavala to do the job.  Yadi isn't the guy we need right now.

Ok guys, Yadi may not be the best fit but I wouldn’t throw out the “not a fit” stuff. Last year everyone said Ozuna was “not a fit” and in hindsight I would have rather gotten him then what they gave us. If the Sox go with Collins and Zavala, we will all wish they had signed Yadi. The more good ball players the better. Obviously if he signs here there will be an understanding that his playing time would take a hit.

Edited November 5, 20205 yr by Orlando

11 minutes ago, Orlando said:

Ok guys, Yadi may not be the best fit but I wouldn’t throw out the “not a fit” stuff. Last year everyone said Ozuna was “not a fit” and in hindsight I would have rather gotten him then what they gave us. If the Sox go with Collins and Zavala, we will all wish they had signed Yadi. The more good ball players the better. Obviously if he signs here there will be an understanding that his playing time would take a hit.

And what happens when Tony decides Molina is better defensively and gives him too many starts while he puts Grandal at DH and Vaughn ends up losing at bats?

44 minutes ago, hi8is said:

I’m not Cishek but I was an attendee during Phil Humbers perfect game in Seattle. Got a free ticket from The Shell Oil Corporation.

Or did you mean to say you are not Not Cishek ? The old Shell game ? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn express ? Bananas.

1 hour ago, Rowand44 said:

Bingo, that's the biggest issue here.  Yadi ain't going anywhere to be a backup catcher.  This is an awful idea and an awful fit.

Yep Yadi is going to have to come to grips that he will be making  less money, play less and is closer to becoming a coach than he is to getting what he wants as a player.

13 minutes ago, fathom said:

And what happens when Tony decides Molina is better defensively and gives him too many starts while he puts Grandal at DH and Vaughn ends up losing at bats?

We have no idea if Vaughn starts the year with the MLB club, heck he could even be traded. 

31 minutes ago, Orlando said:

Ok guys, Yadi may not be the best fit but I wouldn’t throw out the “not a fit” stuff. Last year everyone said Ozuna was “not a fit” and in hindsight I would have rather gotten him then what they gave us. If the Sox go with Collins and Zavala, we will all wish they had signed Yadi. The more good ball players the better. Obviously if he signs here there will be an understanding that his playing time would take a hit.

Just because Ozuna was much better than what the Sox ended up with in 2020, it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't a good fit for the roster in 2020, and still isn't a good fit moving forward. Would I have taken him on the 1 year deal he eventually signed?  Absolutely.  But he still isn't a good long term fit.  

2 hours ago, Flash said:

Like Molina but would rather resign McCann for less $$$.

We would all like this but McCann is going to get a good deal to be a starter.

6 minutes ago, Orlando said:

We have no idea if Vaughn starts the year with the MLB club, heck he could even be traded. 

Vaughn, barring trade, injury or extension, will be up in late April.  Thats a damn near 100% lock.  He's not going to open the year on the roster, though.  

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

Just because Ozuna was much better than what the Sox ended up with in 2020, it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't a good fit for the roster in 2020, and still isn't a good fit moving forward. Would I have taken him on the 1 year deal he eventually signed?  Absolutely.  But he still isn't a good long term fit.  

I agree but I’m a believer that you sign the best players available to you. Hopefully it’s the best fit but there is no guarantee you can find that best fit. Good teams stockpile good players. Ozuna wasn’t a fit for Atlanta either at the time but it worked wonders. Los Angeles operates this way. I would hate for the Sox to pass on a chance to sign a Molina type hoping to convert on a better fit just to end up with Collins. They passed on Ozuna, Castellanos etc and ended up with Nomar.