poppysox Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 14 hours ago, manbearpuig said: I'll be honest: I want any buy low SP candidate the Rays are interested in. Ain't it the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 If the Sox sign Bauer to 10 Mil/yr. how would Giolito feel about pitching for less than half of that ? He isn't a free agent until 2024, but, IMO, a multi-year extension for Giolito might make more sense than signing Bauer. Giolito is our ace and should be paid and treated that way. If Giolito is Cy Young material in 2021, signing him up to a long term deal is only going to get more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, tray said: If the Sox sign Bauer to 10 Mil/yr. how would Giolito feel about pitching for less than half of that ? He isn't a free agent until 2024, but, IMO, a multi-year extension for Giolito might make more sense than signing Bauer. Giolito is our ace and should be paid and treated that way. If Giolito is Cy Young material in 2021, signing him up to a long term deal is only going to get more expensive. Um... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, tray said: If the Sox sign Bauer to 10 Mil/yr. how would Giolito feel about pitching for less than half of that ? He isn't a free agent until 2024, but, IMO, a multi-year extension for Giolito might make more sense than signing Bauer. Giolito is our ace and should be paid and treated that way. If Giolito is Cy Young material in 2021, signing him up to a long term deal is only going to get more expensive. What? Personally, before we start paying Giolito top of the rotation free agent type money, I'd rather wait another year to see how he does over another full season. Edited February 1, 2021 by manbearpuig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, tray said: If the Sox sign Bauer to 10 Mil/yr. how would Giolito feel about pitching for less than half of that ? He isn't a free agent until 2024, but, IMO, a multi-year extension for Giolito might make more sense than signing Bauer. Giolito is our ace and should be paid and treated that way. If Giolito is Cy Young material in 2021, signing him up to a long term deal is only going to get more expensive. Unless he's getting a 25 year contract, Bauer probably isn't signing for $10mil/year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 10 hours ago, hi8is said: I’ll be shocked if he signs with us seeming that there are other competitive teams who can offer more chance to have a rotation spot. True especially offering a minor league deal . Some team will offer a million or 2. Folty here unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: True especially offering a minor league deal . Some team will offer a million or 2. Folty here unlikely. I have him penciled in as going to Tampa. Opened up 2 spots declining Morton's option and trading Snell. Can give him an MLB deal and guarantee a rotation spot day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 So if we give him a minor league deal, can you vary the roster bonus? Is it a set contract? Like could you make it where if he makes team he makes $4.5 million or something higher than another team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, bmags said: So if we give him a minor league deal, can you vary the roster bonus? Is it a set contract? Like could you make it where if he makes team he makes $4.5 million or something higher than another team? Yeah exactly 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, bmags said: So if we give him a minor league deal, can you vary the roster bonus? Is it a set contract? Like could you make it where if he makes team he makes $4.5 million or something higher than another team? Yes. Teams can offer a minor league contract to start with a salary of X if the contract is purchased by the major league team. This is a super typical type of deal in these situations. The one hole is that if the contract doesn't get picked up, they don't get the major league money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah exactly So Hahn could try to buy time with a May 1 cut off, and hope for more favorable outlook on fans in stands In guessing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Yes. Teams can offer a minor league contract to start with a salary of X if the contract is purchased by the major league team. This is a super typical type of deal in these situations. The one hole is that if the contract doesn't get picked up, they don't get the major league money. Thanks, is there any “bonus” if not picked up or just being released is the benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Thanks, is there any “bonus” if not picked up or just being released is the benefit The ones I see on the regular are fixed roster dates. For example, the players gets the option to request a release if he isn't on the MLB roster by April 1, or whatever date. Any bonus would be something negotiated between the players/teams to meet whatever standards they agreed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah exactly Sounds like this is their plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I am really wanting Folty. Sounds cheap, so a low risk-high reward. Plus we need depth badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I am really wanting Folty. Sounds cheap, so a low risk-high reward. Plus we need depth badly. I want dudes like this every year. Doesn't always work out, most likely won't, but if he's back it completely changes things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, bmags said: So if we give him a minor league deal, can you vary the roster bonus? Is it a set contract? Like could you make it where if he makes team he makes $4.5 million or something higher than another team? Two years ago Sox signed Ervin Santana to the exact same deal. Though I have no idea how he made the roster that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Yes he could. They spoke to some of the other shareholders. JR has total control. If everyone wanted to sell but JR, they wouldn't get sold. Also, if JR were to die, his executor gets the same power he has. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/whitesox/ct-xpm-2013-07-28-ct-spt-0728-white-sox-chicago-sports-20130728-story.html Thanks for posting. The article states "Jerry has virtually unfettered control", so there are restrictions, but much fewer restrictions than a typical LLCs, which the article points out. There is a very good possibility the White Sox will suck ass for perpetuity under this scheme, if his heirs or Jerry's hand picked potential successor, Andrew Berlin, obtains control from the estate. Andrew would need to sell his shares in the Cubs to assume control of the White Sox, but it sounds like the White Sox are his for the taking, and I can't see the League turning it down with Andrew already a minority owner of at least two teams. Sounds like Kenny and Hahn may live on Jerry's plantation for life, and life will suck for White Sox fans forever and beyond. Reminds me of this Twilight Zone episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Thanks for posting. The article states "Jerry has virtually unfettered control", so there are restrictions, but much fewer restrictions than a typical LLCs, which the article points out. There is a very good possibility the White Sox will suck ass for perpetuity under this scheme, if his heirs or Jerry's hand picked potential successor, Andrew Berlin, obtains control from the estate. Andrew would need to sell his shares in the Cubs to assume control of the White Sox, but it sounds like the White Sox are his for the taking, and I can't see the League turning it down with Andrew already a minority owner of at least two teams. Sounds like Kenny and Hahn may live on Jerry's plantation for life, and life will suck for White Sox fans forever and beyond. Reminds me of this Twilight Zone episode. That article was from 2013. I think Andrew Berlin may no longer be a shareholder. He bailed out Ricketts' renovation overruns a few years ago and purchased a share of the Cubs. It will all come down to what Michael Reinsdorf wants to do. When my old co worker was doing business with him, he seemed pretty gung ho to take over some day and wanted to do some things different than his father. But he does run the Bulls very similarly. The other thing is JR has been buying up shares, so that has to cost a decent amount of money. For a guy who says baseball isn't a lucrative business, I wonder where he comes up with the scratch. Edited February 1, 2021 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) . Edited February 1, 2021 by GREEDY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 If Folty is available for a minor league deal, there is a reason for that. He's been pretty bad. Now they say he was at 90-92 during his workout which would be in line with a normal guy who throws 96, considering the time of year. But you know he has been ramping it up. Obviously, it makes sense to sign him if a minor league deal is all it will take, but I wouldn't expect much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: If Folty is available for a minor league deal, there is a reason for that. He's been pretty bad. Now they say he was at 90-92 during his workout which would be in line with a normal guy who throws 96, considering the time of year. But you know he has been ramping it up. Obviously, it makes sense to sign him if a minor league deal is all it will take, but I wouldn't expect much. Folty's body was all out of whack. Towards the end it looked like he was on death's door. If he figured out whatever it was that was making him look so ill and has righted the ship, he's worth every bit of a contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 22 hours ago, hi8is said: They were much more than simple allegations. Look into it if you have a string stomach for douchebag assholes. I'm talking about the timing of it being curious, less than 2 months after he takes down an entire sports organization and while he's receiving death threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: I'm talking about the timing of it being curious, less than 2 months after he takes down an entire sports organization and while he's receiving death threats. I think I now actually remember talking with the you about this exact topic when this happened in real time. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Archer just got 6.5 million? White Sox offered Folty a minor league contract? He’s getting at least 2-3 million. Bye Folty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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