1 hour ago, ptatc said:

If what you are saying is truly the case then is it the Manager or the players?

How can a team win with only one valuable player?

TLR should probably go because you can't fire the team.

The answer is yes. 

Tony is awful

The players are injured and underperforming. 

This season is lost. 

Do some retooling in the offseason and hope for bounceback years from important players in 2023. That's about all they can do at this point. 

Also, for fuck's sake, have a sit-down with Eloy and tell him he's going to DH going forward. 

1 hour ago, ptatc said:

If what you are saying is truly the case then is it the Manager or the players?

How can a team win with only one valuable player?

TLR should probably go because you can't fire the team.

Tony is a great manager and the players respect him. There is plenty of baseball left and team is certainly still in the hunt 

1 minute ago, elrockinMT said:

Tony is a great manager and the players respect him. There is plenty of baseball left and team is certainly still in the hunt 

Not sure if serious, but Tony may have been a good manager at some point, but that version of him is longgggggggggggg gone 

3 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

Tony is a great manager and the players respect him. There is plenty of baseball left and team is certainly still in the hunt 

Stay off the drugs. 

8 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

Tony is a great manager and the players respect him. There is plenty of baseball left and team is certainly still in the hunt 

 

 

Edited June 26, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

7 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

Tony is a great manager and the players respect him. There is plenty of baseball left and team is certainly still in the hunt 

Trying to one up me in the +1/reputation department eh?

1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

Yes.

Players were chosen because of this manager and they get at bats they don’t deserve because he protects them. They have a poor approach because their hitting coaches accept one of the lowest launch angles in baseball so they waste the balls that they do hit hard. They are less prepared than their opponents because other teams have professional data and statistics people while the White Sox hired LaRussa’s crony. And their training and conditioning plans, done with their coaches and starting in the spring, aren’t good at all.

The vast majority of the players were chosen before TLR was hired.

He was here last year to so I assume you're going to blame this dramatic organizational shift in philosophy solely on him because he changed all of this in the off season without input from anyone.

Praying for a sweep. This has to stop. I was thinking of writing a book. The working title is: The Tony Larussa story; The death of shame.

3 hours ago, T R U said:

If we get swept at home by Baltimore, it’s definitely the low point of this season

But, the schedule!

1 hour ago, ptatc said:

The vast majority of the players were chosen before TLR was hired.

He was here last year to so I assume you're going to blame this dramatic organizational shift in philosophy solely on him because he changed all of this in the off season without input from anyone.

We have way too much negativity and people taking this stuff personaliy. The blame game seems to be the favorite past time and goes pitch to pitch, and at bat to at bat etc etc patience and to keep your eye on the prize is the best thing 

Edited June 26, 20223 yr by elrockinMT

3 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

We have way tok much negativity and people taking this stuff personality. The blame game seems to be the favorite past time and goes pitch to pitch, and at bat to at bat etc etc patience and to keep your eye on the prize is the best thing 

There really isn't much else they can do. Hopefully,  as each player returns they can turn it up a notch. 

I was there today and they just couldn't get anything going. A couple of more quality hitters would be nice.

That inning for Lynn with the swing bunt, hit batter was just weird. 

Hoping Baltimore brings the brooms out tomorrow in a big way. Beat these losers by double digits please. 

1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said:

Also, for ****'s sake, have a sit-down with Eloy and tell him he's going to DH going forward. 

 

Eloy is not going to agree.  That discussion has already taken place.

Anyway, Eloy is not the reason that this team sucks this year.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, ptatc said:

The vast majority of the players were chosen before TLR was hired.

He was here last year to so I assume you're going to blame this dramatic organizational shift in philosophy solely on him because he changed all of this in the off season without input from anyone.

 TLR was hired with the excuse that he would lead the Sox to post season success due to his 'experience and ability'. Last season they were awful post season and were out after 1 series, so TLR FAILED. This season they are tanking the regular season and will most likely fail to qualify for post season, so again TLR FAILED. All this with the biggest budget the Sox have had for years.

So the Sox are behind Cleveland and Minny in both the standings, organizational effectiveness, and farm systems.  They are (soon to be) only marginally ahead of Detroit and KC in the standings and who have FAR superior farm systems and are already in rebuild mode. In other words..... we're screwed. 

5 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

This team is run solely for the personal profit and amusement of Jerry Reinsdorf.

Frankly, I hope the management and their sycophant media blame this season on injuries, and as a result give Tony another 3 year contract to keep Jerry and Tony happy. Perhaps he’ll pass Connie Mack by 2032.

Hope fans stay away from this dumpster fire until both and their respective stenches are long gone.

 

 

6 hours ago, reiks12 said:

Stop spending your money on the team, only thing fans can do. Really wish fans would stop going to games

JR does not care about the attendance because of the deal he has with the sports authority. If attendance goes too low, he is compensated by the taxpayers

1 hour ago, tray said:

 

Eloy is not going to agree.  That discussion has already taken place.

Anyway, Eloy is not the reason that this team sucks this year.

 

 

 

Eloy not being able to play almost the entire season is a reason this team sucks this year. It isn't the reason,  but it is part of the problem. 

6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Eloy not being able to play almost the entire season is a reason this team sucks this year. It isn't the reason,  but it is part of the problem. 

I agree. It is part of it.

7 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I agree. It is part of it.

Eloy seems to be very over rated. Made of Porcelain, not a good outfielder, BUT, we still win the trade. I just pretend we got Cease and nothing else and that’s a still a big win

Edited June 26, 20223 yr by AJ'S Cousin

3 hours ago, tray said:

 

Eloy is not going to agree.  That discussion has already taken place.

Anyway, Eloy is not the reason that this team sucks this year.

 

 

 

If Eloy rejects DH they need to trade him or something. He really has no place to be deciding where he does or doesn't play. 

Besides didn't this injury happen on the basepaths? Just sucks. I feel bad for him because of how much this hurts him being injured all the time, but at some point he has to accept the fact that his only saving grace right now is his potential with the bat, and he needs to do everything humanly possible to focus on his hitting and get his bat skills honed in, but there isn't much time left for him to turn this around. At least, not with the Chicago White Sox.

Edited June 26, 20223 yr by ScooterMcGuire

It’s not up to Eloy. If he wants to play, he DHs. That simple. 

9 hours ago, tray said:

 

Eloy is not going to agree.  That discussion has already taken place.

Anyway, Eloy is not the reason that this team sucks this year.

 

 

 

Who gives a shit what he agrees to? What's he going to do, hold out? Pout? Intentionally strike out?

7 hours ago, Thesieve30 said:

 

JR does not care about the attendance because of the deal he has with the sports authority. If attendance goes too low, he is compensated by the taxpayers

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-07-06-9607060022-story.html

SoxFare instead of Welfare pitch

 

“According to a 2017 financial report, ISFA’s combined fund deficits stand at $207.5 million. And taxpayers are still on the hook for debt repayments following a series of renovations at Guaranteed Rate Field and an overhaul of Soldier Field completed in 2003.

Through Chicago hotel tax revenue and a combined $10 million in annual state and local subsidies, taxpayers can expect to continue shouldering these costs for decades. More recently, a cancelled concert at Guaranteed Rate Field cost taxpayers more than $1 million in 2017, when ISFA failed to obtain a full refund for the $1.6 million spent on the event.”

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/30-years-later-taxpayers-still-on-the-hook-for-white-sox-stadium/

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-07-06-9607060022-story.html

SoxFare instead of Welfare pitch

 

“According to a 2017 financial report, ISFA’s combined fund deficits stand at $207.5 million. And taxpayers are still on the hook for debt repayments following a series of renovations at Guaranteed Rate Field and an overhaul of Soldier Field completed in 2003.

Through Chicago hotel tax revenue and a combined $10 million in annual state and local subsidies, taxpayers can expect to continue shouldering these costs for decades. More recently, a cancelled concert at Guaranteed Rate Field cost taxpayers more than $1 million in 2017, when ISFA failed to obtain a full refund for the $1.6 million spent on the event.”

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/30-years-later-taxpayers-still-on-the-hook-for-white-sox-stadium/

The team owes its presence here because it made deals with the Devil aka the Chicago and Illinois political machine. No wonder they play like hell.