Good god is this a disaster.  So to summarize, this off-season we have lost the following:

• 3.9 fWAR 1B
• 2.4 fWAR SP
• 1.6 fWAR CL
• 1.4 fWAR UT

And assuming Clevinger is ultimately released, the only external addition of any significance is a non-power hitting LF.

I won’t blame Hahn for the Hendriks situation or this latest nightmare, but it does highlight how much Hahn sucks at being a major league GM.  Literally if anything else goes wrong from this point forward we are completely fucked because there isn’t a semblance of depth anywear except 1B/DH.  When you stop augmenting the roster and instead bank on 100% health & luck you reap what you fucking sow.  Can’t wait for the day this organization is finally free of the incompetence that is Rick Hahn.

Another feather in this turd of an org. This is your 2nd biggest signing of the offseason? It has been a nightmare following this team ever since Plan "A" (signing Machado and Wheeler) failed. It's like they had no backup plan at all and now are grasping at straws and regressing back into their old pre-rebuild habits when it comes to team building. Cant wait for the knee jerk trading of our best prospects who turn into good players for guys who were good but then suck with us.

This is bothering me now.

In Bauer's case, we knew he had issues with people online, but we didn't know how bad the Dodgers screwed up until a national reporter found out about the previous restraining order. 

If there is a record that would have been found by a background check, and the White Sox didn't do a sufficient background check, we will never know about that screwup. No one will ask Hahn about what kind of background check they did, and they wouldn't answer even if they were asked. Someone would have to go and actually find some sort of legal document filed in San Diego, and no Chicago reporter is going to put in the effort to figure that out. 

So, whether or not Hahn did actually screw up here, he will wind up being thought to have done nothing wrong, and there won't be consequences whether or not he messed up. No one will ever know. 

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Good god is this a disaster.  So to summarize, this off-season we have lost the following:

• 3.9 fWAR 1B
• 2.4 fWAR SP
• 1.6 fWAR CL
• 1.4 fWAR UT

And assuming Clevinger is ultimately released, the only external addition of any significance is a non-power hitting LF.

I won’t blame Hahn for the Hendriks situation or this latest nightmare, but it does highlight how much Hahn sucks at being a major league GM.  Literally if anything else goes wrong from this point forward we are completely fucked because there isn’t a semblance of depth anywear except 1B/DH.  When you stop augmenting the roster and instead bank on 100% health & luck you reap what you fucking sow.  Can’t wait for the day this organization is finally free of the incompetence that is Rick Hahn.

He’s been hilariously bad for like a decade now.

5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

He’s been hilariously bad for like a decade now.

The perfect White Sox.

At the very least, he/Hahn could have looked into the cost of acquiring Adalberto Mondesi.

Royals just traded him for a Boston pitcher with back issues.

 

Alright everybody, what are the odds that Wade Davis is our 5th starter come Opening Day?  50%?  75%?  90%?  I can’t believe there is a real chance now that Jason fucking Bilous is going to be our defacto #6 starter.

27 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

This is bothering me now.

In Bauer's case, we knew he had issues with people online, but we didn't know how bad the Dodgers screwed up until a national reporter found out about the previous restraining order. 

If there is a record that would have been found by a background check, and the White Sox didn't do a sufficient background check, we will never know about that screwup. No one will ask Hahn about what kind of background check they did, and they wouldn't answer even if they were asked. Someone would have to go and actually find some sort of legal document filed in San Diego, and no Chicago reporter is going to put in the effort to figure that out. 

So, whether or not Hahn did actually screw up here, he will wind up being thought to have done nothing wrong, and there won't be consequences whether or not he messed up. No one will ever know. 

Bottom lines. No excuses.

Wacha and Reyes are still out there I think.

23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Alright everybody, what are the odds that Wade Davis is our 5th starter come Opening Day?  50%?  75%?  90%?  I can’t believe there is a real chance now that Jason fucking Bilous is going to be our defacto #6 starter.

Wade Davis???

42 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

At the very least, he/Hahn could have looked into the cost of acquiring Adalberto Mondesi.

Royals just traded him for a Boston pitcher with back issues.

 

Targeting that pitcher with back issues is more Hahn’s style.

Only way this could have turned out worse for the Sox was a lot of suggestions out there trading Giolito right around the time he was signed. This organization is trash from ownership down. 

6 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Why do I not rule out the possibility the White Sox knew all along, and knew he would eventually be suspended, and they wouldn't be liable for the the contract. All so they can say they tried, but s%*# happens?

This 1,000,000 percent. JR gets to save a buck and say he gave it the good ol try

1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

If there is a record that would have been found by a background check, and the White Sox didn't do a sufficient background check, we will never know about that screwup.

If there was a record that could have been found by a background check, then it's reasonable to conclude that the Sox absolutely did not do a sufficient background check (or one at all).  And given that there was an open investigation, it's likely that there was a record that could have been found. 
Time to bump up the old thread, if it hasn't been bumped.

Rick Hahn should be fired tomorrow morning. They had to have know about this and it’s  inexcusable if they didn’t.

A press release should be ready tomorrow morning announcing his firing but it’s not because this is a fucking disaster of an organization with a fucking terrible owner. 

Edited January 25, 20233 yr by Joshua Strong

42 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Wade Davis???

Whoops…Davis Martin

Not to deflect from the situation and don’t really know where to put this but I thought I read somewhere the Yanks have 6 SP? Maybe they can get a Frankie Montas off of them somehow…

11 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said:

Rick Hahn should be fired tomorrow morning. They had to have know about this and it’s  inexcusable if they didn’t.

A press release should be ready tomorrow morning announcing his firing but it’s not because this is a fucking disaster of an organization with a fucking terrible owner. 

Lol. If the Sox knew about it they wouldn’t have outwardly lied about that in their released statement. They just would have been silent on knowing about it. 

There is very little chance the Sox knew. There does not appear to be a police report. The ex gf appears to have reported it to the Padres and to MLB, the latter of which is bound by confidentiality and the former of which had no reason to inform the Sox. 

Let’s at least be logical about the situation. 

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Whoops…Davis Martin

I was legitimately thinking you were talking about bringing him out of retirement and turning him back into a starter.

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I was legitimately thinking you were talking about bringing him out of retirement and turning him back into a starter.

i mean, it’s believable from this org.

3 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

The good news is the Sox probably have to do something to try to take this off the front burner. The bad news is the guys that always create messes like this will be doing the something.

Not sure how they're going to do anything with no money left. Even if they eventually are able to get out of having to pay Clevinger, wouldn't the whole investigative process take months (at least)? Didn't Bauer's take nearly two years?

3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Not sure how they're going to do anything with no money left. Even if they eventually are able to get out of having to pay Clevinger, wouldn't the whole investigative process take months (at least)? Didn't Bauer's take nearly two years?

It did, but he was placed on unpaid administrative leave pretty quickly. 

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

It did, but he was placed on unpaid administrative leave pretty quickly. 

Thanks. Regardless, given the lack of money and available players at this point, I don't see an actual move coming beyond MiLB deals/AAAA types. Hope I'm wrong

24 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said:

Rick Hahn should be fired tomorrow morning. They had to have know about this and it’s  inexcusable if they didn’t.

A press release should be ready tomorrow morning announcing his firing but it’s not because this is a fucking disaster of an organization with a fucking terrible owner. 

Nah they really didn’t know. I honestly don’t even think his agent knew the extent. The ex reached out to MLB but there’s apparently no criminal complaint. Nothing would’ve come of this likely if she didn’t post what was posted today. It always comes back to Jerry though for sure. They had like &15-$16 million to spend and no prospects to trade. It’s how you end up dumpster diving constantly and hoping for bounce backs. 

Meanwhile the twins getting better.... When will this 43 yrs of incompetence end...