ChiSox59 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, T R U said: I get that for when you sign people to 7,8,9,10 year deals and you expect the back half of the deal to be rough. At the time, you sign a 31 year old to the largest deal in franchise history and hes negative value after 2 years. That's a little more than just how free agency works. I welcome you to research all deals in MLB at $75M or over and show how many turned out well for the team. Spoiler alert: its a clear minority. Ie: that's just how free agency works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Colas can’t even hit 93 down the plate. His swing looks totally off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, ChiSox59 said: I welcome you to research all deals in MLB at $75M or over and show how many turned out well for the team. Spoiler alert: its a clear minority. Ie: that's just how free agency works. I would venture to guess that a lot of those deals $75+ are longer than 4 years. If I am signing a player in their prime and only for 4 years, I would expect to get more than we got in those 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Pedro's bullpen management is simply awful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, vilehoopster said: TA has to get picked off bases more than any player in MLB. Is there a stat on that. Whoever is in 2nd place, it can’t be close. I’m not talking caught stealing, but picked off 1st and 2nd base. He has no baseball instinct at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I welcome you to research all deals in MLB at $75M or over and show how many turned out well for the team. Spoiler alert: its a clear minority. Ie: that's just how free agency works. So then is Jerry right? I think it sucks that the Sox aren't really players in FA but that's even more evidence to sink a lot of resources into scouting and player development because that's where the value is. Edited July 20, 2023 by baseballgalaly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said: So then is Jerry right? Nope, but that's just how free agency is. All I know is, there is no front office that hands out the largest contract in franchise history and thinks "If we just get two good years out of him it will be worth it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said: So then is Jerry right? If the goal is ROI probably but he doesn't spend elsewhere where needed like scouting and player development 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: If the goal is ROI probably but he doesn't spend elsewhere where needed like scouting and player development That's so confusing to me. Jerry doesn't like to spend on proven talent and he doesn't like to spend on unproven talent. So where you getting talent from, Jerry? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Sox win! Wonder if the Mets played their version of a Sunday lineup. Don't know what to say about the game. Just, win, baby and they did. So no complaints today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Guys I did it. Day time dub 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, greg775 said: Sox win! Wonder if the Mets played their version of a Sunday lineup. Don't know what to say about the game. Just, win, baby and they did. So no complaints today. Too bad we couldn’t take the series but Gio was off on Monday and Touki isn’t a starter. On to Minny, maybe we can sweep them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Too bad we couldn’t take the series but Gio was off on Monday and Touki isn’t a starter. On to Minny, maybe we can sweep them. Please no. Don't need this front office thinking they have a chance leading up to deadline. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said: That's so confusing to me. Jerry doesn't like to spend on proven talent and he doesn't like to spend on unproven talent. So where you getting talent from, Jerry? Elves and gnomes 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Pedro's Boys Don't Get Swept** **only available against National League opponents who are under .500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, greg775 said: Sox win! Wonder if the Mets played their version of a Sunday lineup. Don't know what to say about the game. Just, win, baby and they did. So no complaints today. The White Sox actually played an all-around good game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Please no. Don't need this front office thinking they have a chance leading up to deadline. Not in my DNA to wish that the Sox lose games. See following post. Edited July 20, 2023 by The Mighty Mite 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Not in my DNA to wish that the Sox lose games. What I do wish is that JR has an epiphany and re-signs Gio and goes after some top flight free agents in the off season with some trades thrown in, It wouldn’t bother me to see guys like Eloy and Vaughn traded but only for immediate help, I’m done with rebuilds. Edited July 20, 2023 by The Mighty Mite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Not in my DNA to wish that the Sox lose games. See following post. Meh. They can trade Giolito and try to re-sign him long-term in the off-season if they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Enjoyed the game. Always like going to Citi Field. Sat in the cheap seats, so I don't have a nuanced view of how they won. Thrilled that Kopech was able to keep it together through some control lapses. Bummer looked pretty darn good. Fun day out at the ballpark. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 If only we had a reliable bullpen and a legit Closer the Sox could be competitive the rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 GB still. Sell sell sell sell sell The rental players and the team lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Meh. They can trade Giolito and try to re-sign him long-term in the off-season if they want. Like Chapman and the Yanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, oldsox said: Like Chapman and the Yanks. This guy gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Small sample size - but Timmy is hitting .375 since the break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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