2 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

Is this clown going to announce a closer or is it gonna be the closer by committee crap that failed last year?

Competitive advantage.  Grifol will let you and opposing teams know who the closer is when you need to know.

20 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

Is this clown going to announce a closer or is it gonna be the closer by committee crap that failed last year?

Have I got news for you.

 

5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Have I got news for you.

 

Given the makeup of the roster, I don't have a problem with this approach 

5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Have I got news for you.

 

Wonderful. So not only is he not assigning a closer but he disagrees with the philosophy altogether...unless of course you have a hall of famer. This dude makes Bevington look like genius. 

3 minutes ago, Tony said:

Given the makeup of the roster, I don't have a problem with this approach 

I get that to some extent, but a bullpen functions best when pitchers know their roles. I'd honestly rather he pick a closer randomly then to just constantly be shifting. 

Oooh, he’s so new age!  So cutting edge!  Grifol thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room as he tries to spit this “new” strategy.  The more he opens his mouth, the dumber he sounds.

23 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

I get that to some extent, but a bullpen functions best when pitchers know their roles. I'd honestly rather he pick a closer randomly then to just constantly be shifting. 

Not trying to give Pedro more credit that he deserves, but my assumption is those roles will somewhat sort of themselves out based on performance. Because there are very few "standout" arms on paper in that bullpen, when he talks about using his "best leverage guys," I think he's going to have to find out who those guys are based on performance. 

But I've always held the stance that even if you have one of the best closers in the game, if you're up 3-2 in the 8th inning and the Dodgers are sending up their 2-3-4 hitters, I'd much rather have my best pitcher in the bullpen on the mound for the 8th. If you bring in a lesser pitcher in the 8th and he blows the lead, there is no game to save in the 9th. 

1 minute ago, Tony said:

Not trying to give Pedro more credit that he deserves, but my assumption is those roles will somewhat sort of themselves out based on performance. Because there are very few "standout" arms on paper in that bullpen, when he talks about using his "best leverage guys," I think he's going to have to find out who those guys are based on performance. 

But I've always held the stance that even if you have one of the best closers in the game, if you're up 3-2 in the 8th inning and the Dodgers are sending up their 2-3-4 hitters, I'd much rather have my best pitcher in the bullpen on the mound for the 8th. If you bring in a lesser pitcher in the 8th and he blows the lead, there is no game to save in the 9th. 

This is what I am hoping for.  Especially without literally no closing experience in the pen, hopefully a guy like Wilson, Kopech, or even Leasure steps forward to take it on.

7 minutes ago, Tony said:

Not trying to give Pedro more credit that he deserves, but my assumption is those roles will somewhat sort of themselves out based on performance. Because there are very few "standout" arms on paper in that bullpen, when he talks about using his "best leverage guys," I think he's going to have to find out who those guys are based on performance. 

But I've always held the stance that even if you have one of the best closers in the game, if you're up 3-2 in the 8th inning and the Dodgers are sending up their 2-3-4 hitters, I'd much rather have my best pitcher in the bullpen on the mound for the 8th. If you bring in a lesser pitcher in the 8th and he blows the lead, there is no game to save in the 9th. 

I get all this as well. Hopefully it does sort itself out. Hopefully it's not just Pedro not wanting to make a decision. Personally I have trouble trusting a guy who pitched Hanser Alberto on Opening Day last year. 

15 minutes ago, Tony said:

Not trying to give Pedro more credit that he deserves, but my assumption is those roles will somewhat sort of themselves out based on performance. Because there are very few "standout" arms on paper in that bullpen, when he talks about using his "best leverage guys," I think he's going to have to find out who those guys are based on performance. 

But I've always held the stance that even if you have one of the best closers in the game, if you're up 3-2 in the 8th inning and the Dodgers are sending up their 2-3-4 hitters, I'd much rather have my best pitcher in the bullpen on the mound for the 8th. If you bring in a lesser pitcher in the 8th and he blows the lead, there is no game to save in the 9th. 

 

13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This is what I am hoping for.  Especially without literally no closing experience in the pen, hopefully a guy like Wilson, Kopech, or even Leasure steps forward to take it on.

Agreed. As far as we know, none of these guys are able to close, but maybe one of them can. If we just assign it to, say, Kopech right out of the gate and he blows it over and over, we’d never find out if one of the other guys can do it. We’re not competing, so might as well try some trial and error.

9 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

I get all this as well. Hopefully it does sort itself out. Hopefully it's not just Pedro not wanting to make a decision. Personally I have trouble trusting a guy who pitched Hanser Alberto on Opening Day last year. 

We do have to hope that Grifol is thinking what we’re thinking, and that he’s not just gonna throw anyone out there all season even if someone steps up and proves he can close.

27 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said:

 

Agreed. As far as we know, none of these guys are able to close, but maybe one of them can. If we just assign it to, say, Kopech right out of the gate and he blows it over and over, we’d never find out if one of the other guys can do it. We’re not competing, so might as well try some trial and error.

And we also don't have to crush them by publicly putting it all on one person just in case they do fail.  It makes it easier to pivot without burying one dude, and it also reduces the need to have one guy potentially fail a bunch of times before making a move since he has the "title" of closer.

Of course Grifol and Montoyo aren’t wearing the home whites for the introductions. Tim Hill too. 

Dopes.

We got shut out on opening day, but I am sure the CULTURE is looking great in the clubhouse.

1 minute ago, reiks12 said:

We got shut out on opening day, but I am sure the CULTURE is looking great in the clubhouse.

Don't forget about the campfire milkshake, bro.

55 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

We got shut out on opening day, but I am sure the CULTURE is looking great in the clubhouse.

Don't forget the dandy defense the Sox put out there today and are gonna put out there on a daily basis.

I like how in the 8th inning he continued to let our worst hitters bat instead of someone on the bench

Is the offense going in order in the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th innings Pedroball or Getzyball??

1 hour ago, reiks12 said:

We got shut out on opening day, but I am sure the CULTURE is looking great in the clubhouse.

As long as Chuck Garfien is happy, we should all be happy. 

11 minutes ago, wegner said:

Is the offense going in order in the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th innings Pedroball or Getzyball??

22 minutes ago, wegner said:

Is the offense going in order in the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th innings Pedroball or Getzyball??

Corpseball. It never left.

13 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Corpseball. It never left.

5 minutes ago, wegner said:

AI needs more White Sox data. By the time the season is over they'll have it down pat.

43 minutes ago, wegner said:

Is the offense going in order in the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th innings Pedroball or Getzyball??

Pedretz? Gedzro? Some other unholy amalgamation of the two?

3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Pedretz? Gedzro? Some other unholy amalgamation of the two?

Even Dr Frankenstein would say "oh Hell NO"