chitownsportsfan Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 So when do we find out about the Pedro extension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, TheBooneLoganEra said: 63 - 115 Which is horrid, but what makes it worse is it was supposed to be a championship window. He's a joke of a manager. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 This is just pathetic. What has this guy shown that makes you want to rush him back? As always, seems like wonderful communication between the idiot and his players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 How would you like to have in your job description "explain every why your bunch of mediocre fielders that are mostly hitting under Mendoza just lost again." I'm not saying he's not an idiot, but how many losses can he be blamed for this season? Yes, he comes off as defensive. Wouldn't you or I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) The opening series with Detroit set the tone. Sox could have and probably should have won 2/3 of those games but they didn't. Grifol was responsible for not having every player ready to compete, physically and mentally, from Opening Day. Multiple strained and pulled muscles? Blame the players if you want but ownership pays the manager and a conditioning staff to have players prepared before every game and every at-bat. That was not the case. What the heck were they doing at Spring "Training." Moving forward, the team is obviously short on talent but Grifol has to come up with a line-up and a strategy to scratch across a few runs. No need for Grifol to stay up at night analyzing film. Instead typical baseball strategy for a weak hitting team is called for - take more pitches to try and get walks...bunt....hit toward the opposite field... move around in the box from pitch to pitch....grind out every at-bat. And please move slow players and guys that hit a lot of grounders down in the line-up to avoid double plays. Well, I am tired of waiting for the Sox to do any of that so IMO, Grifol has to go as soon as possible. It's not too late to at least have a course change that can win some games. Don't wait until the All Star break to give this guy his walking papers. Edited April 17 by tray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said: How would you like to have in your job description "explain every why your bunch of mediocre fielders that are mostly hitting under Mendoza just lost again." I'm not saying he's not an idiot, but how many losses can he be blamed for this season? Yes, he comes off as defensive. Wouldn't you or I? Can't blame him for all the losses, but he's a bad manager. It's so obvious. What has he ever shown during a game that makes anyone think he could be OK, forget elite? Why go on when it's a perfect time to let a guy the organization is very high on a shot, when he doesn't have to be perfect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said: How would you like to have in your job description "explain every why your bunch of mediocre fielders that are mostly hitting under Mendoza just lost again." I'm not saying he's not an idiot, but how many losses can he be blamed for this season? Yes, he comes off as defensive. Wouldn't you or I? There si a whole stew of s%*# that is this organization and he is a main ingredient. He does NOTHING well. Every player and coach in that locker room has to look at him and laugh to themself. He is a bozo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said: How would you like to have in your job description "explain every why your bunch of mediocre fielders that are mostly hitting under Mendoza just lost again." I'm not saying he's not an idiot, but how many losses can he be blamed for this season? Yes, he comes off as defensive. Wouldn't you or I? Sure, but a big part of a manager's job is handling the media and being the main communicator of the team's status and overall message. He is awful at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: What about starting by taking one of your "worst bats" and taking away places for that guy to play? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeless_joe21 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Grifol would make outrageous claims, like Gavin Sheets invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Sacrificing defense for offense Sacrificing offense for defense Sacrificing defense for offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 64 - 117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/17/2024 at 2:17 PM, Snopek said: Sacrificing defense for offense Sacrificing offense for defense Sacrificing defense for offense Sacrificing defense AND offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Given that Pedro currently holds a 64-117 record, you would think at some point he says “This isn’t working, I have to take a slightly different approach here” but instead he continues with the same shtick every day. Hey Pedro, maybe take your own advice and flush the script, try something new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 29 minutes ago, Tony said: Given that Pedro currently holds a 64-117 record, you would think at some point he says “This isn’t working, I have to take a slightly different approach here” but instead he continues with the same shtick every day. Hey Pedro, maybe take your own advice and flush the script, try something new. He knows as well as we do that nothing he does will make the team better (not that he has the ability anyway) and that he will never get a major league job again after this. I’m sure he’s just sitting back and cashing the checks as long as they keep coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 19 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said: He knows as well as we do that nothing he does will make the team better (not that he has the ability anyway) and that he will never get a major league job again after this. I’m sure he’s just sitting back and cashing the checks as long as they keep coming. Well therein lies the problem. Can't change the culture with a loser who accepts losing. No I agree this team will be bad under anyone but just giving up is horrible for young players to be around and that seems to be all this clown does. The sooner he's gone the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Firing is too good for Grifol. He should be forced to watch all 162. Him and the 1000 people in the stands, plus 500 on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 19 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said: Well therein lies the problem. Can't change the culture with a loser who accepts losing. No I agree this team will be bad under anyone but just giving up is horrible for young players to be around and that seems to be all this clown does. The sooner he's gone the better. JR isn’t firing him until very near the end of the season at the earliest. It’s a lost season, he’s not making any more money regardless, and he’s not gonna pay a second manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 My guess is that ownership has already been interviewing potential managers, perhaps at least interim managers. Getz has likewise done a terrible job. Changes have to be made when the Sox return home from this road trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 42 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said: JR isn’t firing him until very near the end of the season at the earliest. It’s a lost season, he’s not making any more money regardless, and he’s not gonna pay a second manager. I'll respectfully disagree. If they were 7 - 12 maybe, but at 3 - 16 it's getting absurd. They're gonna leave Philly 3 - 18 and are facing the possibility of falling 20 under .500 in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Pedro is the worst manager on the worst team put together by the worst GM and the worst owner in the league. Besides we have the least talented players. What could go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, tray said: My guess is that ownership has already been interviewing potential managers, perhaps at least interim managers. Getz has likewise done a terrible job. Changes have to be made when the Sox return home from this road trip. Ozzie, come on down! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, tray said: My guess is that ownership has already been interviewing potential managers, perhaps at least interim managers. Getz has likewise done a terrible job. Changes have to be made when the Sox return home from this road trip. Can I interest you in a 37 year old OF? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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