January 28, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, HoosierSox said: Maybe this wakes Elias up. I doubt it, he doesn’t have it in him
January 28, 20242 yr 9 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don’t think Emerson, Ford or Young is realistic with one of Woo/Miller. Thats too much. I could see Montes or Gonzalez though for sure What about Hancock?
January 28, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, Rey21 said: I doubt it, he doesn’t have it in him He’s gonna start losing these guys to roster crunch and prospect failure. It’s so stupid not to trade some of them.
January 28, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: He’s gonna start losing these guys to roster crunch and prospect failure. It’s so stupid not to trade some of them. I agree
January 28, 20242 yr 33 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: He’s gonna start losing these guys to roster crunch and prospect failure. It’s so stupid not to trade some of them. But what about guys like Joseph Ortiz???
January 28, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don’t think Emerson, Ford or Young is realistic with one of Woo/Miller. Thats too much. I could see Montes or Gonzalez though for sure Do Woo or Miller have TOR talent? If not, I don't see the point of such a trade. I'm guessing they don't, as 6th and 4th round picks (although that's not dispositive).
January 28, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Do Woo or Miller have TOR talent? If not, I don't see the point of such a trade. I'm guessing they don't, as 6th and 4th round picks (although that's not dispositive). Woo's savant page is a thing of beauty: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/bryan-woo-693433?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb
January 28, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Do Woo or Miller have TOR talent? If not, I don't see the point of such a trade. I'm guessing they don't, as 6th and 4th round picks (although that's not dispositive). I don’t think the round they were drafted in is relevant. Either guy could be a mid-rotation type. Six years of control is really valuable.
January 28, 20242 yr 33 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Do Woo or Miller have TOR talent? If not, I don't see the point of such a trade. I'm guessing they don't, as 6th and 4th round picks (although that's not dispositive). Cease was a 6th round pick.
January 28, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, Pale Sox said: Cease was a 6th round pick. Buehrle was a 38th round pick.
January 28, 20242 yr I just don’t think you’re getting much more than Woo or Miller in a trade for Cease
January 28, 20242 yr 9 minutes ago, fathom said: I just don’t think you’re getting much more than Woo or Miller in a trade for Cease I kind of agree. Just not sure why Seattle would really want to deal 6 years of either MLB ready starter (+ more) for 2 years. Edited January 28, 20242 yr by Bob Sacamano
January 28, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I just don’t think you’re getting much more than Woo or Miller in a trade for Cease Agreed. Which is why it doesn’t make any sense to me.
January 28, 20242 yr Author 8 minutes ago, Pale Sox said: Cease was a 6th round pick. I agree draft pick round is somewhat meaningless, but Cease was a massive overslot signing and got 40th overall pick type money. Very different situation from Woo who a slot signing and Miller who was an under slot signing.
January 28, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I agree draft pick round is somewhat meaningless, but Cease was a massive overslot signing and got 40th overall pick type money. Very different situation from Woo who a slot signing and Miller who was an under slot signing. He was also drafted by the Cubs with the knowledge that he needed TJ surgery.
January 28, 20242 yr 19 minutes ago, fathom said: I just don’t think you’re getting much more than Woo or Miller in a trade for Cease 1 legit piece plus whatever isn't sufficient. Take him to the deadline.
January 28, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: 1 legit piece plus whatever isn't sufficient. Take him to the deadline. His value is whatever other teams are willing to offer, not what Getz or this board wants in return.
January 28, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: His value is whatever other teams are willing to offer, not what Getz or this board wants in return. Jimmy has sort of implied BAL has offered one of Cowser/Kjerstad, one of Norby/Ortiz and "more" (Povich/Mcdermott?) but Getz is insisting on Westburg as the second piece. If thats true, that's a solid and acceptable offer but you still wait to see if NYY or someone else will cave in ST before accepting it.
January 28, 20242 yr I'd love a package headlined by Bryce Miller with OF Jonatan Clase in there somewhere as well. Miller has great metrics. I love to dream on that K/BB ratio and his power fastball. Clase is an absolute speed demon switch hitter. 79 SB last season to go along with 20 HR who plays in all 3 OF positions. He also did this in AA, so he's not far off from the majors. He's very intriguing to me as maybe a 3rd piece in the deal.
January 28, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: I'd love a package headlined by Bryce Miller with OF Jonatan Clase in there somewhere as well. Miller has great metrics. I love to dream on that K/BB ratio and his power fastball. Clase is an absolute speed demon switch hitter. 79 SB last season to go along with 20 HR who plays in all 3 OF positions. He also did this in AA, so he's not far off from the majors. He's very intriguing to me as maybe a 3rd piece in the deal. Noticed Clase as well when looking at their prospects. Switch-hitting OF with 20 homers last year.
January 28, 20242 yr 21 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Clase is an absolute speed demon switch hitter. 79 SB last season to go along with 20 HR who plays in all 3 OF positions. He also did this in AA, so he's not far off from the majors. He's very intriguing to me as maybe a 3rd piece in the deal. Think I'd pass on the guy with a 30 hit tool. Sounds like there is a ton of work to do there with him. Not sure I trust the Sox to develop that. Though I guess he'd be fine as a final lotto ticket piece. Edited January 28, 20242 yr by DirtySox
January 29, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, DirtySox said: Think I'd pass on the guy with a 30 hit tool. Sounds like there is a ton of work to do there with him. Not sure I trust the Sox to develop that. Though I guess he'd be fine as a final lotto ticket piece. I'm willing to overlook a .230 batting average when his elite walk rate still gives him a .330+ OBP, game breaking speed, above average power, and CF defense. He's ranked among their top prospects for a reason, and that's all despite his swing and miss. And again, I'm taking about him as a 3rd piece in a trade that includes Bryce Miller and someone else in between. Edited January 29, 20242 yr by ChiliIrishHammock24
January 29, 20242 yr 14 minutes ago, Baron said: So the O's guys are gone now right? it's been a good news day. Baltimore fans, your baseball team will suffer the same fate of your football team if you don’t acquire Cease. ? Edited January 29, 20242 yr by WhiteSox2023
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