7 hours ago, fathom said:

Awful, there are no Sox fans out that way

There's a lot more up here than you might think. 

Doesn't matter, though, this is never gonna happen. 

7 hours ago, TitoMB345 said:

False! There's at least one! I grew up in AH/BG, and my mom still lives there and she's a fan lol.

She's the best!!!

I said this the second the Bears bought the land in AH, but if you're going to develop 300+ acres into a entertainment complex it would help if there more than 10 Bears games a year and they don't want to shoulder that development on their own. There's enough room there for 3 stadiums and it's not like the Sox are getting anyone to show up on the south side. Put 30-40 bars/restaurants around those stadiums and people will show up. The Sox and Bears won't get a single penny from the state, but if they both jointly make a move for AH they might actually get the city to fold and at least plow some serious money into the 78 development.

15 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

IMO, we've moved past this.  At this point, it'll all be about whether the team is eventually sold to Ishbia and whether the Ishbia brothers will make a privately-funded stadium at The 78 happen.  

I think JR knows that his publicly funded stadium fantasy is DOA, too.  That's why he approached Ishbia about increasing his stake in the franchise. 

I think they'll get some state funding but it won't be nearly enough so yes the question becomes will Ishbia provide the rest of the funds for a stadium in Chicago or take a free stadium in Nashville.  

after the game we can go to the Kumas Corner (antiseptic version)

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I think they'll get some state funding but it won't be nearly enough so yes the question becomes will Ishbia provide the rest of the funds for a stadium in Chicago or take a free stadium in Nashville.  

What free stadium in Nashville?

Their government has said they have no money to give, they spent everything on the Titans new stadium. 

They're not moving to Nashville, let's get that idea out of our collective heads.  

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48 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said:

after the game we can go to the Kumas Corner (antiseptic version)

All versions have fallen off a cliff. Place is terrible now. 

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I think they'll get some state funding but it won't be nearly enough so yes the question becomes will Ishbia provide the rest of the funds for a stadium in Chicago or take a free stadium in Nashville.  

Nashville invested everything into the Titans' new facility...

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I think they'll get some state funding but it won't be nearly enough so yes the question becomes will Ishbia provide the rest of the funds for a stadium in Chicago or take a free stadium in Nashville.  

What would be the point of Ishbia eventually owning them if they move?

24 minutes ago, fathom said:

What would be the point of Ishbia eventually owning them if they move?

They move because they offered them a better deal.  Billionaires don't become billionaires from making bad deals.  

we picture it like jerry is going to sell to ishbia so he can keep the team local

but what may be more realistic is:

jerry has always known he'll sell to ishbia, the most motivated buyer. and the 78 deal is all about trying to impress him with Chicago's prospects ..so it can stay here.

i do think though that Ishbia turning down Minnesota shows he likes this market

I don't think there's anywhere the Sox could move that would be close to as good a market as Chicago. 

Can JR use Tampa as a bargaining chip again?

2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They move because they offered them a better deal.  Billionaires don't become billionaires from making bad deals.  

Harold, stick to calling Jared Kelenic a future HOF'er. 

I think we should wait and see what the Bears announce before we go down this rabbit hole 

3 hours ago, Fielder Jones said:

we picture it like jerry is going to sell to ishbia so he can keep the team local

but what may be more realistic is:

jerry has always known he'll sell to ishbia, the most motivated buyer. and the 78 deal is all about trying to impress him with Chicago's prospects ..so it can stay here.

i do think though that Ishbia turning down Minnesota shows he likes this market

I'll say this.  Everyone is so hyper focused on when is Reinsdorf going to sell?!? When is Reinsdorf going to give up control?!? that they're missing what's really going on with the Ishbia purchase.  

12 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I'll say this.  Everyone is so hyper focused on when is Reinsdorf going to sell?!? When is Reinsdorf going to give up control?!? that they're missing what's really going on with the Ishbia purchase.  

If he has an agreement to sell, the control question is already answered.  I think most people are using "sell" as a shorthand for "when Jerry no longer is the White Sox decision maker" and not drawing a deep distinction between the physical sale date of his shares vs the actual deeding of control to another person or entity. 

8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If he has an agreement to sell, the control question is already answered.  I think most people are using "sell" as a shorthand for "when Jerry no longer is the White Sox decision maker" and not drawing a deep distinction between the physical sale date of his shares vs the actual deeding of control to another person or entity. 

I thought Harold meant more along the lines of Ishbia buying and moving the team to Nashville (like clockwork, that rumor continues to persist).

3 hours ago, fathom said:

I thought Harold meant more along the lines of Ishbia buying and moving the team to Nashville (like clockwork, that rumor continues to persist).

If he wants to move this team from Chicago to Nashville, while turning down already buying a team in Minneapolis then I think he is pretty stupid.

19 hours ago, mac9001 said:

I said this the second the Bears bought the land in AH, but if you're going to develop 300+ acres into a entertainment complex it would help if there more than 10 Bears games a year and they don't want to shoulder that development on their own. There's enough room there for 3 stadiums and it's not like the Sox are getting anyone to show up on the south side. Put 30-40 bars/restaurants around those stadiums and people will show up. The Sox and Bears won't get a single penny from the state, but if they both jointly make a move for AH they might actually get the city to fold and at least plow some serious money into the 78 development.

This makes a lot of sense - especially the leverage for that last point. 

3 hours ago, fathom said:

I thought Harold meant more along the lines of Ishbia buying and moving the team to Nashville (like clockwork, that rumor continues to persist).

Harold was spot on in his post, but his conclusion was laughable.

No one is paying CHICAGO market value for a team and then moving it to Nashville and immediately degrading the value of their purchase.

I'm not sure what people are missing. The estimated value of the Nashville franchise (new) was a 1-1.2 billion  roughly. He just paid 1.9 in value for the White Sox.

Certainly not a billionaire making wise financial decisions. AND, he wouldn't build a 75 million dollar home in a place only to become a toxic individual in that city. 

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39 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Harold was spot on in his post, but his conclusion was laughable.

No one is paying CHICAGO market value for a team and then moving it to Nashville and immediately degrading the value of their purchase.

I'm not sure what people are missing. The estimated value of the Nashville franchise (new) was a 1-1.2 billion  roughly. He just paid 1.9 in value for the White Sox.

Certainly not a billionaire making wise financial decisions. AND, he wouldn't build a 75 million dollar home in a place only to become a toxic individual in that city. 

But now use the Getz logic system and it works: Take an asset and convert it into something with less value for inexplicable reasons.

A third of the Chicago market is larger than the entire Nasville metro area. The moment JR is no longer the controlling partner the entire fanbase will be instantly invigorated. There is no greater untapped market than right here. Ishba has to see the goldmine he'd be acquiring. As jaded as the Sox fan base is, if the Sox suddnely start operating like a modern large market team under new ownership, it won't take long for the fans to buy in. I honestly believe that.

The new Jason Statham movie references the Sox building at the 78. Wonder who wants that to happen.

1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

The new Jason Statham movie references the Sox building at the 78. Wonder who wants that to happen.

Tray is definitely not Executive Producer on that one.