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37 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Horrible memories, lol.  Was there truly anyone that didn’t think the Sox would wind up with Machado after they acquired Alonso and Jay?  The majority wanted Harper but Sox fans were just so excited about adding a star player that people didn’t really care which one the Sox winded up with.

Yeah, it seemed like that was a prerequisite of a Manny signing. Or not. When Jay said publicly that Manny should take the best offer, or something like that, he was dead to me. 

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16 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You're already awake .You make more game threads and White Sox winners threads than anyone. You know you enjoy a win when the kids contribute and even wins when  there is competency shown in multiple areas. Youre not a Sith or a Jedi . , but you're closer to being a Jedi than a Sith. 

Funny. I wrote almost the same first two sentences, then deleted. 

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13 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Yeah, it seemed like that was a prerequisite of a Manny signing. Or not. When Jay said publicly that Manny should take the best offer, or something like that, he was dead to me. 

Haha, I remember that.  It was at that moment that I realized that Machado just played Hahn to make his buddies some extra money.

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8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Funny. I wrote almost the same first two sentences, then deleted. 

I was complimenting him. Anyone can be a curmudgeon with this team and ownership and we all have been . 

I hope for all the young Sox fans out there that if the Ishbias ownership comes to pass it ushers in a new era of White Sox baseball that has never been witnessed before like actually making the playoffs often without the need to rebuild . 

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11 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I was complimenting him. Anyone can be a curmudgeon with this team and ownership and we all have been . 

I hope for all the young Sox fans out there that if the Ishbias ownership comes to pass it ushers in a new era of White Sox baseball that has never been witnessed before like actually making the playoffs often without the need to rebuild . 

I'll settle for making the playoffs two years in a row without a weird Covid year.

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2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

WSI had Dark Clouds and Pollyannas.  SoxTalk has the Sith and the Jedi.  🤣

Gotta keep it simple I suppose. Though it is weird that the "Jedi" apparently believe in Emperor Jerry.

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5 hours ago, almagest said:

I did a quick positive vs negative WAR from trades and free agents for Hahn and he was remarkably close to 0.0 WAR factoring in every move I looked at. It was by no means exhaustive and I'm sure I missed a few players, but that level of incompetence is almost laudable.

That is really bad….lol

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17 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That is really bad….lol

It probably had a lot to due with the age of the vets he was acquiring.  One of Hahn’s few good free agent pickups that we already discussed was James McCann, but he was still relatively young (28) when Hahn signed him.  But still, it’s amazing that any GM could be that unlucky and never hit on at least a few good veteran seasons on one-year deals.

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1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

Thats just Getz’s strategy to have “great” veteran-led outfield defense…pitchers that throw up in the zone and mostly pitch to contact except Smith.

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On 6/10/2025 at 3:54 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

WSI had Dark Clouds and Pollyannas.  SoxTalk has the Sith and the Jedi.  🤣

What happened to that site, I thought it was the #1 Sox board, but it seems to have disappeared.

 

There was once a sox board that always talked about "core of the core" meetups, and had a guy named Shoelundo, does anyone remember it

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6 hours ago, Sox guy said:

What happened to that site, I thought it was the #1 Sox board, but it seems to have disappeared.

 

There was once a sox board that always talked about "core of the core" meetups, and had a guy named Shoelundo, does anyone remember it

Part of the reason was strong disagreements between the individuals who "owned" the web site and people who had control of the message board.

At one time it was a very good site, was being quoted and written about in the Sun-Times, Tribune and even some out of town newspapers. They were using quotes from interviews posted on the site for example. Then the site stopped running interviews and historical stories.

Even the White Sox wanted to get involved. I got an e-mail from Brooks Boyer one time asking if I could give him the contact information to the people who ran the site. He said the Sox wanted to make White Sox Interactive merchandise available at the stadium. Nothing ever developed because I was told some individuals wouldn't agree to the Sox terms on the financial aspects of the deal. Don't know if that was true or not just what I heard.

Then as others have pointed out, the site because very authorative regarding message board comments, anything to "negative" was being shut down.

 

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37 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Part of the reason was strong disagreements between the individuals who "owned" the web site and people who had control of the message board.

At one time it was a very good site, was being quoted and written about in the Sun-Times, Tribune and even some out of town newspapers. They were using quotes from interviews posted on the site for example. Then the site stopped running interviews and historical stories.

Even the White Sox wanted to get involved. I got an e-mail from Brooks Boyer one time asking if I could give him the contact information to the people who ran the site. He said the Sox wanted to make White Sox Interactive merchandise available at the stadium. Nothing ever developed because I was told some individuals wouldn't agree to the Sox terms on the financial aspects of the deal. Don't know if that was true or not just what I heard.

Then as others have pointed out, the site because very authorative regarding message board comments, anything to "negative" was being shut down.

 

i know numerous people who were banned. They kept banning me on a temporary basis. None of my comments were really that negative.  Finally i emailed them and told them to ban me on a permanent basis.

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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Part of the reason was strong disagreements between the individuals who "owned" the web site and people who had control of the message board.

At one time it was a very good site, was being quoted and written about in the Sun-Times, Tribune and even some out of town newspapers. They were using quotes from interviews posted on the site for example. Then the site stopped running interviews and historical stories.

Even the White Sox wanted to get involved. I got an e-mail from Brooks Boyer one time asking if I could give him the contact information to the people who ran the site. He said the Sox wanted to make White Sox Interactive merchandise available at the stadium. Nothing ever developed because I was told some individuals wouldn't agree to the Sox terms on the financial aspects of the deal. Don't know if that was true or not just what I heard.

Then as others have pointed out, the site because very authorative regarding message board comments, anything to "negative" was being shut down.

 

 

44 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

i know numerous people who were banned. They kept banning me on a temporary basis. None of my comments were really that negative.  Finally i emailed them and told them to ban me on a permanent basis.

I remember that site's heyday.  I think they even had some local sports reporters posting on the site.  The number of members they had was impressive.

Yes, there long had been a dispute between the person managing the website and the people managing the message boards and that was an ongoing problem for them.  But I think their downfall was overzealous mods who seemed to dare people to get banned.  It got to the point where they seemed disdainful of posters in general.  It wasn't a community of Sox fans sharing their passion for their favorite team anymore, it was (in the view of the mods IMO) a group of utterly disposable knuckleheaded fans who better not cross any lines with ignorant posts.  Sure, there needed to be some moderation against some of the more obnoxious posters and some people needed to be banned, but they really took it too far and it ultimately killed* the site.  And it wasn't just the outright banning, people who dared criticize the direction the team were mocked as a pants-pissing dark cloud.  And this was post-2008 when it was obvious that the Sox organization was starting to rot from within.

*The site is still there, but it's a shell of its former self.  

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1 hour ago, 77 Hitmen said:

 

I remember that site's heyday.  I think they even had some local sports reporters posting on the site.  The number of members they had was impressive.

Yes, there long had been a dispute between the person managing the website and the people managing the message boards and that was an ongoing problem for them.  But I think their downfall was overzealous mods who seemed to dare people to get banned.  It got to the point where they seemed disdainful of posters in general.  It wasn't a community of Sox fans sharing their passion for their favorite team anymore, it was (in the view of the mods IMO) a group of utterly disposable knuckleheaded fans who better not cross any lines with ignorant posts.  Sure, there needed to be some moderation against some of the more obnoxious posters and some people needed to be banned, but they really took it too far and it ultimately killed* the site.  And it wasn't just the outright banning, people who dared criticize the direction the team were mocked as a pants-pissing dark cloud.  And this was post-2008 when it was obvious that the Sox organization was starting to rot from within.

*The site is still there, but it's a shell of its former self.  

That's true they did along with Sox published authors like Rich Lindberg and Dan Helpingstein. 

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On 6/7/2025 at 6:51 PM, PaleAleSox said:

I mean, the young guys look extremely promising and the pitching staff looks good and has a ton of control. I think it's easy to see it's trending in the right direction. 

Have we really lost 8 in a row? That's a significant losing streak. Back when we cared about Ws and Ls we'd be freaking out on here.

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