Straight C imo. I'll have more when I'm soberer.

At the moment I can only give a D because any hope is on the young position players progressing again in 2026 and that is something that the White Sox haven't done well recently. There is certainly more room for optimism than at the end of 2024, but without strong free agent signings this off season then relying totally on all the young players to progress and none to plateau or have a worse season in 2026 is asking a lot.

 

I gave him a C, how do you build a team working for an owner who would make Ebeneezer Scrooge proud.

 

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I'll give him a C. Young guys looked pretty good in the 2nd half. 

C- feels about right.

Biggest pluses were Colson, Teel and the Rule 5 guys.

Quero, Baldwin, Vargas and Sosa had their moments…along with Meidroth, but none of those guys feel like the heart of a pennant contender at present time due to various flaws.

Schultz, Hagen Smith and Braden the three obvious keys to the future, and the 2026 draft pick.

Speed defense execution/fundamentals, the bullpen and rotation, all need dramatic improvements, especially with Robert (at some point, hopefully) and Taylor both gone.

They finished 29th overall, 24th post All Star Break.  Still a failure no matter how you break it up, unless you remove all of August and a couple weeks of September.

C is a passing grade. The Sox passed zero tests this year. D or F only options.

9 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said:

They finished 29th overall, 24th post All Star Break.  Still a failure no matter how you break it up, unless you remove all of August and a couple weeks of September.

I agree. Everyone playing well and you still lose. He got the job because JR needed something fast. He took over a 101 loss team. Now its a 102 loss team. Not good. They win more games next year and Schultz and Smith rebound,  he can get a better grade, but right now it's F, although I really like Teel.

Now do Venable.

15 minutes ago, MikeKreevich said:

Now do Venable.

Go ahead and make a poll post and we will

I gave a D because while it still was a top 4 worst season in the franchise history, there was some prospects that showed out in the second half and at least looked like they could hang in the major leagues.  A long way to go but part of a foundation is there 

F...as said...102 losses!  Imagine just a few years ago thinking that 100+ losses is ANYTHING but an F!  That is how low the bar has been set...so sad and frustrating! 

3 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

I gave him a C, how do you build a team working for an owner who would make Ebeneezer Scrooge proud.

 

I get the urge to grade on a curve...but Getz knew the situation better than any of us...and took the job why?  Just for the money and prestige or because he thought he had a plan?  If he had a plan, he is entering his 3rd off-season with no card in his hand that will get him 2, 3 or 4 kids we feel "good" about (Crochett card)!  I am thrilled we went younger this season...but 2 of those younger kids are someone elses kids (which is fine, it is how the sport works).  So with no card like the Crochett card...who is being developed that will show up and have us excited about getting even younger?  Smith and Schultz?  Maybe...I hope so!  But yikes unless those two figure something out in the off-season or spring training!  

18 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I gave a D because while it still was a top 4 worst season in the franchise history, there was some prospects that showed out in the second half and at least looked like they could hang in the major leagues.  A long way to go but part of a foundation is there 

This is perfectly said.

Eloy mashed as a rookie. Let's see where things go before declaring the current crop of young guys a surefire thing.

If this is truly just for 2025 and ignoring any larger context, I don’t see how a 102 loss team can get a grade higher than a D.

The only exception would be if their star players were hurt for much of the season, but they weren’t really hit that hard with injuries and they don’t have any star players.

1 hour ago, Quin said:

This is perfectly said.

Eloy mashed as a rookie. Let's see where things go before declaring the current crop of young guys a surefire thing.

As long as they don’t get fat and lazy like he did. 

I am following instructions which said to ignore 2024 in the equation. Therefore, 102 wins gets you no better than a D in my book. 

7 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

As long as they don’t get fat and lazy like he did. 

Gordon Beckham 2009 vs. Gordon Beckham the rest of his career.  Montgomery looks like a keeper now, his HR rate could be cut in half and it's still high, but things happen.

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2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Gordon Beckham 2009 vs. Gordon Beckham the rest of his career.  

Fat Palka vs Skinny Palka

Nobody likes a skinny Santa

7 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Gordon Beckham 2009 vs. Gordon Beckham the rest of his career.  Montgomery looks like a keeper now, his HR rate could be cut in half and it's still high, but things happen.

Only risk with Monty I see is the back, which is a scary risk as we've already seen it crush his performance, but if he's healthy hes a star.

"C" His hands were tied to a large degree. He made some good moves, some bad. I like his vision of the type of team he wants. He has built a strong "up the middle" With Teel,Miedroth, Colson and Robert. Still a long ways to go, but the next wave of youth is on the way.  Still though a "C".

21 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

As long as they don’t get fat and lazy like he did. 

Ok, Rookie Luis Robert. Also, let's not forget that Eloy's downfall began with a hustle play. A dumb hustle play, but a hustle play nonetheless.

Dudes get figured out. Let's hope the new crop don't.

Gonna go with a D

The Good:

- Some long term starters showed up

The Bad:

- I know we are supposed to ignore previous years, but with it being the 3rd straight 100 loss season we didn't even have pieces left to trade, so no exciting deadline piece added.

- Bullpen still bad and looks like they'll have to pay to improve it

- Still too full of tweeners who aren't great at defense but not good enough hitters to put on corners

- Very middling year on the farm

lmao at "B" 

mired in mediocrity for all time

Had to go D.  100 losses would normally be a F but they did improve.