March 9Mar 9 Take this with a giant grain of salt cause it's from AI but: Grok Quote Roch Cholowsky’s paternal Cholowsky family line (the source of the surname) traces back to immigrants from the Galicia region of the former Austria-Hungary Empire in the early 1900s. This historical area is now primarily in western Ukraine (with some overlap into southeastern Poland). The family settled in Yonkers, New York, and the line stayed in the U.S. thereafter.Here’s the publicly documented family structure (drawn from obituaries, census-linked records on sites like Legacy.com, FamilySearch, Ancestry summaries, and cross-referenced with baseball profiles confirming locations and names): Roch’s father: Dan (Daniel J.) Cholowsky, born October 30, 1970, in Yonkers, New York. He later lived in the Vallejo/American Canyon area of California (where Roch was born) and Chandler, Arizona. Paternal grandfather: Paul L. Cholowsky (born ~1946). He lived in California (Vallejo area) before moving to Chandler, Arizona. Paternal great-grandfather: William Cholowsky, born February 3, 1921, in Yonkers, NY; died December 2002 in the Westchester/Crugers, NY area. He was a WWII veteran and accountant; married LaRue Clarke (from Nebraska). Paternal great-great-grandparents (the immigrants): Conrad (sometimes spelled Konrad) Cholowsky (born ~1884 in “Austria”/Galicia) and Anna née Zoviska (or Zuworsky/Zowiska, born ~1890 in “Austria”/Galicia). They had multiple children in Yonkers starting around 1912 and are listed as the parents of William in his 2002 obituary. Conrad and Anna arrived in the U.S. in the early 20th century (typical for this wave of Galician immigration). U.S. records from that era often simply list the birthplace as “Austria” or “Austria-Hungary” because Galicia was a province of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until 1918. The region is ethnically Slavic, and parallel Cholowsky families in the same Yonkers cluster show strongly Ukrainian indicators: Spouses with distinctly Ukrainian/Ruthenian names (e.g., Eudokia “Eva” Sorochty, Mary Kolcun). Other nearby Cholowsky branches list exact birthplaces in Galicia (e.g., Lukas/Louis Cholowsky born 1882 in Galicia, Austria). The surname Cholowsky (or variants like Chołowski/Cholowski) is a classic Eastern Slavic habitational name ending in -owski/-owsky, common in both Polish and Ukrainian populations from that exact border region. No public interviews, baseball profiles, or family statements mention heritage explicitly—everything is from genealogical and vital records.Roch’s maternal side (mother Tika, maiden name Belanger) has no connection to the Cholowsky surname and appears to have separate (likely French-Canadian or other) roots, with ties to the UCLA area.This is as far as freely available public sources go (obituaries, public family-search indexes, census hints, and baseball bios). Exact village names or ship manifests aren’t indexed in open web results and would require a paid Ancestry/MyHeritage subscription, DNA matching, or direct family documents. No Canadian or other international branches appear linked to this specific line. Chat GPT: Quote Based on available genealogical records and surname analysis, Roch Cholowsky’s family heritage most likely traces to Eastern Europe, particularly the Poland–Ukraine region. Key points: The surname “Cholowsky” is a Slavic name closely related to Polish forms like Chołowski / Cholowski, which typically originate in Poland or western Ukraine. Early family records in the United States show relatives such as Stephen S. Cholowsky (1915–1998) whose parents were Lukas (Louis) Cholowsky and Eudokia Eva Sorochty. The given name Eudokia and the surname Sorochty are common in Ukrainian and Rusyn communities, suggesting roots in that cultural area. These ancestors appear in New York in the early 1900s, which aligns with immigration from Polish- and Ukrainian-controlled territories of the Russian or Austro-Hungarian empires during that period. ✅ Condensed conclusion: Roch Cholowsky’s paternal family most likely originated from the Poland–western Ukraine region of Eastern Europe, with strong indicators of Ukrainian or Polish Slavic ancestry before immigrating to the United States in the early 20th century. TLDR: Unsure but most likely Polish or Ukrainian. The spouse names (if they pulled correct ancestry) make Ukrainian more likely Edited March 9Mar 9 by DoUEvenShift
March 9Mar 9 5 hours ago, WestEddy said: A name with an sky at the end isn't necessarily Polish. "Ski" indicates Polish. "Sky" can be Ukrainian or Russian. Artistic license if you please.
March 9Mar 9 3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Artistic license if you please. Sure. My parents were first generation American with aunts, uncles and cousins back in Poland. There is/was a resentment of Ukies going back to WWII. The Ukies hated Stalin for his genocide, so when the Germans came through, they fought alongside of Germany. Polish people didn't like that. So believe me, my parents would point out every Ukrainian person who spoke Polish, but with a Ukrainian accent, or who had an sky on their name. Don't get me started on the Russians. Historically, it's all the same s%*#. Poland's pre-partition kingdom stretched east to Kviv.
March 9Mar 9 The surname Cholowsky has its roots in Eastern Europe, particularly within Slavic regions, where it is believed to have originated from a combination of local geographical features and occupational roles...
March 9Mar 9 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The surname Cholowsky has its roots in Eastern Europe, particularly within Slavic regions, where it is believed to have originated from a combination of local geographical features and occupational roles... Yes, which includes Poland, Russia, and Ukraine.
March 9Mar 9 26 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Sure. My parents were first generation American with aunts, uncles and cousins back in Poland. There is/was a resentment of Ukies going back to WWII. The Ukies hated Stalin for his genocide, so when the Germans came through, they fought alongside of Germany. Polish people didn't like that. So believe me, my parents would point out every Ukrainian person who spoke Polish, but with a Ukrainian accent, or who had an sky on their name. Don't get me started on the Russians. Historically, it's all the same s%*#. Poland's pre-partition kingdom stretched east to Kviv. My mothers side of the family had Polish from my granny but the last name ended with 'wicz I think. I see my cousins on FB using the last name every so often like 4 syllables starts with P like Paterkawicz or some such.
March 10Mar 10 I love to her stories about parents and grandparents coming to America and making it all work out.
March 10Mar 10 3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: My mothers side of the family had Polish from my granny but the last name ended with 'wicz I think. I see my cousins on FB using the last name every so often like 4 syllables starts with P like Paterkawicz or some such. https://usctrojans.com/sports/baseball/roster/coaches/andy-stankiewicz/7247
March 10Mar 10 20 hours ago, oldsox said: I love to her stories about parents and grandparents coming to America and making it all work out. Not always easy for people to do that these days, but the work ethic and tenacity they had was admirable.
March 10Mar 10 23 hours ago, oldsox said: I love to her stories about parents and grandparents coming to America and making it all work out. That's at least partially why I'm such a big Matas fan. 1st generation Chicagoan and American.
March 15Mar 15 4 hours ago, Chopper2Hopper said: Say what you will about Bauer, but our boy just squared off against him in the cage! Crazy they already have the GRF backdrop on the videoboard...a lot of confidence, but you don't get to #1 prospect status without it.
March 15Mar 15 9 hours ago, Chopper2Hopper said: Say what you will about Bauer, but our boy just squared off against him in the cage! Learning that he is a legit first pitch hitter, and up and in is going to be picked on until he figures something out. Probably lust lay off
March 16Mar 16 shame these college stadiums don't have pitch speed or exit velo, or do they have it but they don't show it on the broadcast? btw Roch today 3 for 4, 2 singles to LF, a HR to LF, 1 K, 0 BB, 3 RBI
March 18Mar 18 On 3/14/2026 at 12:56 PM, Chopper2Hopper said:Say what you will about Bauer, but our boy just squared off against him in the cage! That was awesome. I almost took hi8is jr to watch him play against another local college today but decided to wait until Friday. Will report back.
March 19Mar 19 I really liked that Bauer video. The content was good, and I loved the chirping back and forth as well. From what I saw I am a big fan of Roch, hes competitive, looks like a good teammate (his interactions with the other pitcher), and looks passionate about the game.Thats all I need to see, get him on the Southside!
March 20Mar 20 that's a very interesting top 15 mock draft, he has Justin LeBron falling to 13, Grady Emerson to 8, and Vahn Lackey up at #2 over Flora
March 20Mar 20 On 3/15/2026 at 1:14 AM, Chick Mercedes said:Learning that he is a legit first pitch hitter, and up and in is going to be picked on until he figures something out. Probably lust lay off That was really cool. Getting to see live ABs like this is wild.
March 22Mar 22 Lebron doing well in the SEC and Roch having some issues makes the choice a bit less obvious IMO
March 22Mar 22 On 3/20/2026 at 8:25 AM, almagest said:That was really cool. Getting to see live ABs like this is wild.I need all batters miked up and talking
March 22Mar 22 1 hour ago, fathom said:Lebron doing well in the SEC and Roch having some issues makes the choice a bit less obvious IMO
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