20 minutes ago, nrockway said:

It's not like I hate the idea of trading for Detmers, but it takes guys like Jeral Perez and Mathias LaCombe to get it done not our previous two first round picks.

I think you’re gonna be in for a surprise once Detmers is traded.

4 minutes ago, Snopek said:

I think you’re gonna be in for a surprise once Detmers is traded.

Exactly. Without even looking at teams outside of Chicago, we have two teams here that are in the running for the postseason and are absolutely desperate for starting pitching. Starting pitching is going to be expensive as hell this trade deadline.

Edited Friday at 02:28 AM4 days by WhiteSox2023

And now the Red Sox Twins Tigers in the "don't trade/holding" group with the possible exception of Skubal...if they're blown out of the water with an offer.

Marlins are much less likely to move players as well now.

https://www.mlb.com/news/starting-pitcher-trade-rumors-2026-trade-deadline

On 7/9/2026 at 9:32 PM, caulfield12 said:

And now the Red Sox Twins Tigers in the "don't trade/holding" group with the possible exception of Skubal...if they're blown out of the water with an offer.

Marlins are much less likely to move players as well now.

Would you put the A's, Angels, Royals, and Reds as probable sellers?

52 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

Would you put the A's, Angels, Royals, and Reds as probable sellers?

I would and the Rockies and maybe the Mets.

With Hicks having 15 Ks with no walks in 8 innings since his return from injury and Shane Smith possibly coming back, I'm afraid Getz might do next to nothing at the deadline. Especially if we tread water after the ASB.

2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

With Hicks having 15 Ks with no walks in 8 innings since his return from injury and Shane Smith possibly coming back, I'm afraid Getz might do next to nothing at the deadline. Especially if we tread water after the ASB.

So much depends on what JR allows him to do.

4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

So much depends on what JR allows him to do.

I can see that being the case in any deal where we might take on a longer/bigger contract. Maybe that's not as much of a concern now because the Red Sox won't be trading Gray or Chapman.

Teams are going to be all over Getz for Bonemer. Especially after this draft. Various 35 year olds, career years, clubhouse clowns will be offered....do not give in. The Dodgers are getting long in the tooth in the IF and have a hole at 2B and will have a OF prospect or Emmet Sheehan to offer. Do not give in,

8 hours ago, chw42 said:

With Hicks having 15 Ks with no walks in 8 innings since his return from injury and Shane Smith possibly coming back, I'm afraid Getz might do next to nothing at the deadline. Especially if we tread water after the ASB.

That took me by surprise to see Hicks deal like that. This team can be an enigma, you think you know but you don't know.

10 hours ago, chw42 said:

With Hicks having 15 Ks with no walks in 8 innings since his return from injury and Shane Smith possibly coming back, I'm afraid Getz might do next to nothing at the deadline. Especially if we tread water after the ASB.

I’m not sure what’s needed outside of a SP and backup catcher.

At this point, I think you have to accept that Quero may not be in the catching plans for this year and might need a full offseason to right the ship. The rest of the positional group is complete assuming no injuries. Hell, we’re going to run an immediate 26 man roster crunch if/when Hays & Pereira come back.

The bullpen is rounding into form after a rough stretch. Once McDougal comes up, you’ll have him, Taylor, a rejuvenated Hicks, & Dominguez from the right side with Gonzalez, Pallette, & Iriarte as depth. You’ll have Hudson, Newcomb, & Murphy from the left side with Hagen & Schweitzer as depth.

If you add a SP via trade, then you have a decision on whether to keep Fedde or Richards as your long man. You’d also have Shane Smith & Sandlin as key depth that could push Kay or possibly Schultz (ideally not though) for a rotation spot down the stretch.

Again, cross fingers on health, but Getz shouldn’t have to do a lot.

10 hours ago, chw42 said:

With Hicks having 15 Ks with no walks in 8 innings since his return from injury and Shane Smith possibly coming back, I'm afraid Getz might do next to nothing at the deadline. Especially if we tread water after the ASB.

Shane Smith and McDougal both had good outings last night ...7/12. I hope Getz doesn't and don't think he will give away top talent for a rental. The process has just begun, and the future looks bright (finally!) let it roll.

11 hours ago, chw42 said:

With Hicks having 15 Ks with no walks in 8 innings since his return from injury and Shane Smith possibly coming back, I'm afraid Getz might do next to nothing at the deadline. Especially if we tread water after the ASB.

Unhittable lately.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m not sure what’s needed outside of a SP and backup catcher.

At this point, I think you have to accept that Quero may not be in the catching plans for this year and might need a full offseason to right the ship. The rest of the positional group is complete assuming no injuries. Hell, we’re going to run an immediate 26 man roster crunch if/when Hays & Pereira come back.

The bullpen is rounding into form after a rough stretch. Once McDougal comes up, you’ll have him, Taylor, a rejuvenated Hicks, & Dominguez from the right side with Gonzalez, Pallette, & Iriarte as depth. You’ll have Hudson, Newcomb, & Murphy from the left side with Hagen & Schweitzer as depth.

If you add a SP via trade, then you have a decision on whether to keep Fedde or Richards as your long man. You’d also have Shane Smith & Sandlin as key depth that could push Kay or possibly Schultz (ideally not though) for a rotation spot down the stretch.

Again, cross fingers on health, but Getz shouldn’t have to do a lot.

Good breakdown. If they’re committing to being buyers, I really think they need to add more than one SP, which seems very unlikely.

I just don’t see this current SP group holding it together down the stretch.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m not sure what’s needed outside of a SP and backup catcher.

At this point, I think you have to accept that Quero may not be in the catching plans for this year and might need a full offseason to right the ship. The rest of the positional group is complete assuming no injuries. Hell, we’re going to run an immediate 26 man roster crunch if/when Hays & Pereira come back.

The bullpen is rounding into form after a rough stretch. Once McDougal comes up, you’ll have him, Taylor, a rejuvenated Hicks, & Dominguez from the right side with Gonzalez, Pallette, & Iriarte as depth. You’ll have Hudson, Newcomb, & Murphy from the left side with Hagen & Schweitzer as depth.

If you add a SP via trade, then you have a decision on whether to keep Fedde or Richards as your long man. You’d also have Shane Smith & Sandlin as key depth that could push Kay or possibly Schultz (ideally not though) for a rotation spot down the stretch.

Again, cross fingers on health, but Getz shouldn’t have to do a lot.

If just one comes back, Perez is the easy guy to go down.

JR will love me for this, but I'm thinking do nothing at the deadline. There isn't a real surplus anywhere to trade from. It's just digging a new hole to fill an old hole.

What little they could add might get them to a second round loss instead of a first. They are ahead of schedule and expectations. And I expect them to overpay and under scout.

5 minutes ago, Snopek said:

Good breakdown. If they’re committing to being buyers, I really think they need to add more than one SP, which seems very unlikely.

I just don’t see this current SP group holding it together down the stretch.

I feel very strongly that we shouldn’t sacrifice the development of key young players to better our chances of winning the division. As such, I believe we should continue to throw Schultz out there every five or six days. If so, I don’t know how you can roster two more starters.

Let’s just say we go out and trade Carlson, Gabe Davis, & another piece for Reid Detmers. Your 1-2-3 becomes Detmers-Burke-Martin. Yes, we probably need to find a way to rest Martin some as he looks fatigued, but that can be managed by skipping starts and using your swing man for more innings.

That leaves Schultz as your #4 and one of Kay, Shane Smith, Sandlin, or Adams as your #5. If you replace Kay, then he becomes the swing man and Fedde & Richards are bumped off the roster. I guess it’s theoretically feasible, but I struggle to think we can acquire a second SP that will be materially better than Kay in this market for a price we like and who is better than other internal options.

Luis Castillo makes tons of sense. Shouldn’t cost a lot prospect wise. Has consistently thrown ~170/180 innings. Signed through 2027 with 2028 vesting option, so not a ton of long term financial risk. Still throwing hard, but mostly blue savant page. Maybe the Sox staff could turn that around. Floor of a 1.5-2.0 war horse.

21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I feel very strongly that we shouldn’t sacrifice the development of key young players to better our chances of winning the division. As such, I believe we should continue to throw Schultz out there every five or six days. If so, I don’t know how you can roster two more starters.

Let’s just say we go out and trade Carlson, Gabe Davis, & another piece for Reid Detmers. Your 1-2-3 becomes Detmers-Burke-Martin. Yes, we probably need to find a way to rest Martin some as he looks fatigued, but that can be managed by skipping starts and using your swing man for more innings.

That leaves Schultz as your #4 and one of Kay, Shane Smith, Sandlin, or Adams as your #5. If you replace Kay, then he becomes the swing man and Fedde & Richards are bumped off the roster. I guess it’s theoretically feasible, but I struggle to think we can acquire a second SP that will be materially better than Kay in this market for a price we like and who is better than other internal options.

I don’t disagree with any of this. I guess the point I was making is that I don’t think they’re one SP away from being serious contenders, so I’m good with standing pat instead of making shortsighted moves. You’re playing with house money this year.

With that said, I definitely don’t mind the Detmers move since he wouldn’t be just a two month rental.

35 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I feel very strongly that we shouldn’t sacrifice the development of key young players to better our chances of winning the division. As such, I believe we should continue to throw Schultz out there every five or six days. If so, I don’t know how you can roster two more starters.

Let’s just say we go out and trade Carlson, Gabe Davis, & another piece for Reid Detmers. Your 1-2-3 becomes Detmers-Burke-Martin. Yes, we probably need to find a way to rest Martin some as he looks fatigued, but that can be managed by skipping starts and using your swing man for more innings.

That leaves Schultz as your #4 and one of Kay, Shane Smith, Sandlin, or Adams as your #5. If you replace Kay, then he becomes the swing man and Fedde & Richards are bumped off the roster. I guess it’s theoretically feasible, but I struggle to think we can acquire a second SP that will be materially better than Kay in this market for a price we like and who is better than other internal options.

Now that Roch is actually in the system and (hypothetically) ahead of Carlson, I'm more open to trading Carlson.

I wonder if the Sox would go to a six man rotation of Detmers-Burke-Martin-S. Smith-Schultz-Sandlin since none of the guys really have innings built up.

4 hours ago, Texsox said:

JR will love me for this, but I'm thinking do nothing at the deadline. There isn't a real surplus anywhere to trade from. It's just digging a new hole to fill an old hole.

What little they could add might get them to a second round loss instead of a first. They are ahead of schedule and expectations. And I expect them to overpay and under scout.

You only have Mune for 1.5 more years. You can’t assume anymore than that. It would be great if 100% of our players were home grown but it wouldn’t hurt to trade some and bring in somebody.

You need at least one more SP, assuming Schultz keeps his spot. You have Shane Smith, Adams, Thorpe, McDougal, Sandlin. Trade two of those for a known commodity.

18 hours ago, chw42 said:

With Hicks having 15 Ks with no walks in 8 innings since his return from injury and Shane Smith possibly coming back, I'm afraid Getz might do next to nothing at the deadline. Especially if we tread water after the ASB.

A repaired Shane Smith could be better than anything they're willing to trade for.

18 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

So much depends on what JR allows him to do.

As with every team in the MLB.