Woof.

I guess we can blame his recent, bad outing on this.

Second verse, same as the first!

The hits just keep coming. Good god we can't keep these pitchers healthy for whatever reason.

51 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Woof.

TINSTAAPP

I don’t think he was going to be any help this season anyways. Hopefully not a long term concern.

I can’t decide if this is good news or bad news. Never want to see a guy hurt, but it could explain the inconsistency (specifically his last outing).

Sucks but glad it happened this way rather than “he made a start on Saturday, was terrible, and now is going to miss time on the MLB IL with a shoulder impingement and accumulate service time after we started his clock and dfa'd someone else”

Edited Tuesday at 08:21 PM1 day by Bob Sacamano

21 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

I can’t decide if this is good news or bad news. Never want to see a guy hurt, but it could explain the inconsistency (specifically his last outing).

Think it’s good as the stuff he had this past start was horrible

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The hits just keep coming. Good god we can't keep these pitchers healthy for whatever reason.

this constant change of arm slots and delivery can’t be good for the body

Edited Tuesday at 08:16 PM1 day by Chick Mercedes

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The hits just keep coming. Good god we can't keep these pitchers healthy for whatever reason.

Only hits I see is our dudes strokin’

This should take him out of the major league rotation plans for the rest of the year. Obviously there is a non zero chance he can help sometime in August or September, but you can’t really plan around that now. Realistically, if all goes well, maybe he could factor into bullpen mix if we make the playoffs.

5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Only hits I see is our dudes strokin’

Hagen, can we just not

Bummer

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

Only hits I see is our dudes strokin’

To each his own.

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/hagen-smith-out-with-left-shoulder-impingement?t=mlb-top-prospects

You wonder if this suddenly happened. Remember in his next to last start he struck out nine or ten guys and looked very good.

Then Saturday he stunk the joint out.

Edited Tuesday at 09:44 PM1 day by Lip Man 1

Get Rev Ike, "Heal my brother heal".

@ptatc we need you now more than ever!

19 hours ago, ron883 said:

@ptatc we need you now more than ever!

I agree Ron. Not sure how serious the impingement is but Fegan's report - two weeks of rest before throwing and another 2 weeks before returning to games seems like it could be something relatively minor, but without having additional info or knowledge about that condition, any projection about when he might return is not useful. Getz and his team will just have to focus that much harder now to acquire pitching.

2 hours ago, tray said:

I agree Ron. Not sure how serious the impingement is but Fegan's report - two weeks of rest before throwing and another 2 weeks before returning to games seems like it could be something relatively minor, but without having additional info or knowledge about that condition, any projection about when he might return is not useful. Getz and his team will just have to focus that much harder now to acquire pitching.

I'm waiting on an MRI because I may have blown out a shoulder a few weeks ago. In the meantime I've checked with my doctor on different scenarios. He told me an impingement, if I understand him correctly, is something that irritates the nerves or muscle, usually something like a bone spur or chip that rubs up against it. Surgery is usually the way to heal it taking away the source of the irritation.

I'm sure there are many different forms of impingement, but I've got to believe that one possible outcome is a torn labrum.
My understanding of an impingement is based on a hip impingement, where there is extra bone on the "shaft" that connects the head of your hip bone (the ball) to the femur. In that case, certain movements can cause that extra bone to rub up against the labrum and cause a tear.

If a protocol of rest is at play, I would assume that the impingement is causing inflamed tissue similar to how @Lip Man 1 describes it. My understanding is that surgery would be required eventually, but it may be something that you'd be able to sort of re-set by letting the inflammation periodically calm down to a baseline level. Worst case, though, you could be looking at a major surgery caused by this additional bone mass in a violently-moving and critical area.

Note: I am not trained in any of the above (I didn't even bother to look anything else up), so I really hope @ptatc comes back to clear this all up for us.

Horrible pick.

22 minutes ago, Sambuca said:

Horrible pick.

Considering the other options it is starting to look that way.

28 minutes ago, Sambuca said:

Horrible pick.

In hindsight, probably. Even if he can manage to stay healthy going forward, there’s no guarantee he’ll be a stud starter. 94 walks in 135.1 innings is no gouda.

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by WhiteSox2023