zenryan Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) I hope when you hate on AJP you are hating on a player who gave you a WS title. Without him, the White Sox do not win it all for the only time in your lifetime. Unless baseball changes its economic system dramatically, the Sox won't be winning any more in your lifetime. Maybe one if everything falls perfectly into place one magical year to come. I'm not going to blindly love some guy because he won the white sox a WS. I'm 32 years old, I dont need to worship athletes like some 8 year old fanboy. plus I'm a Rays fan now so it wont bother me if the WS dont win again in my lifetime. If they do then that's great because there are some cool people here I'd be happy for their excitement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jul 13, 2014 -> 06:01 PM) I'm not going to blindly love some guy because he won the white sox a WS. I'm 32 years old, I dont need to worship athletes like some 8 year old fanboy. plus I'm a Rays fan now so it wont bother me if the WS dont win again in my lifetime. If they do then that's great because there are some cool people here I'd be happy for their excitement. Have you found any good Rays' fan sites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 The White Sox are the only team that stories like this didn't leak out from. I find that pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 10:40 AM) The White Sox are the only team that stories like this didn't leak out from. I find that pretty interesting. Was it AJ or Ozzie leaving that guys like Konerko kind of gave the "Change in the clubhouse is good, wink, wink"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 10:51 AM) Was it AJ or Ozzie leaving that guys like Konerko kind of gave the "Change in the clubhouse is good, wink, wink"? It was Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 11:28 AM) It was Ozzie. Yeah, that's right. For some reason though, I thought there were some rumblings from people that AJ's ship had run it's course in the clubhouse and that was part of the reason they happily switched to the one and only T-Flo. Of course, like ss2k5 said, it was nowhere near the negativity after he left Minnesota, San Francisco, or Boston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 11:50 AM) Yeah, that's right. For some reason though, I thought there were some rumblings from people that AJ's ship had run it's course in the clubhouse and that was part of the reason they happily switched to the one and only T-Flo. Of course, like ss2k5 said, it was nowhere near the negativity after he left Minnesota, San Francisco, or Boston What was the negativity in Minnesota? I thought he was traded because Mauer was ready. Edited July 14, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 12:00 PM) What was the negativity in Minnesota? I thought he was traded because Mauer was ready. I don't think there was negativity as he was traded but he already wasn't well perceived by the league even then. Twins fans felt that, because he signed with Chicago and helped bring home a World Series, that he'd betrayed them in some way and they've held contempt for him since that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) I don't think there was negativity as he was traded but he already wasn't well perceived by the league even then. Twins fans felt that, because he signed with Chicago and helped bring home a World Series, that he'd betrayed them in some way and they've held contempt for him since that day. If they feel betrayed by someone the team they root for traded away, that's really strange. AJ loves to play the heel. Someone described him as sandpaper in the clubhouse. Sometimes you need that. When you win, just like everything else, it is perfect. If you don't win, it's a huge part of the problem. I just think if AJ was the problem he was perceived to be when the Giants non tendered him, and the problem he supposedly was in Boston, he wouldn't have lasted 8 years and 3 or 4 contracts in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 12:10 PM) If they feel betrayed by someone the team they root for traded away, that's really strange. AJ loves to play the heel. Someone described him as sandpaper in the clubhouse. Sometimes you need that. When you win, just like everything else, it is perfect. If you don't win, it's a huge part of the problem. I just think if AJ was the problem he was perceived to be when the Giants non tendered him, and the problem he supposedly was in Boston, he wouldn't have lasted 8 years and 3 or 4 contracts in Chicago. No, I agree completely with you. So much of it depends on the mentality of the clubhouse as well, where he was accepted with open arms in Chicago (and presumably Texas too, even if they didn't bring him back), but not Boston or San Francisco. Twins fans would always talk about how they hated Pierzynski and I always asked why. The answer was always "because he's an an A-hole and he signed with Chicago." I'd mention the Nathan, Liriano, and Bonser thing and that they should be grateful, and that would be irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 11:50 AM) Yeah, that's right. For some reason though, I thought there were some rumblings from people that AJ's ship had run it's course in the clubhouse and that was part of the reason they happily switched to the one and only T-Flo. Of course, like ss2k5 said, it was nowhere near the negativity after he left Minnesota, San Francisco, or Boston I was more going towards actual anecdotes about what happened in the clubhouse. I don't remember seeing a single specific story. Glittering generalities, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 01:50 PM) I was more going towards actual anecdotes about what happened in the clubhouse. I don't remember seeing a single specific story. Glittering generalities, sure. There was the one about "someone" coming in and putting all the games on college football after a bad loss and Ozzie getting pissed off because they didn't seem to care about the loss that I think was tied to AJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 12:53 PM) There was the one about "someone" coming in and putting all the games on college football after a bad loss and Ozzie getting pissed off because they didn't seem to care about the loss that I think was tied to AJ. That one happened while he was still here. No one sat on it until he was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 It could also be the White Sox learned from the past. It was ugly when McDowell left. It was ugly when Maggs left. It was ugly when the Big Hurt left, they even took some backhanded shots at Carlos Lee when they traded him. .... For many years, it seemed if the Sox traded a player or they left one way or another, they had something nasty to say. When they got rid of Raines and One Dog, Schueler apparently thought it was necessary to tell everybody they couldn't throw, yet they could never throw and it seemed fine having them both out there for 4 or 5 seasons. It seems to have gotten much better the last several years after years of the knowing it's coming ugliness. Boston now has a reputation of slamming guys when they are out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 12:08 PM) It could also be the White Sox learned from the past. It was ugly when McDowell left. It was ugly when Maggs left. It was ugly when the Big Hurt left, they even took some backhanded shots at Carlos Lee when they traded him. .... For many years, it seemed if the Sox traded a player or they left one way or another, they had something nasty to say. When they got rid of Raines and One Dog, Schueler apparently thought it was necessary to tell everybody they couldn't throw, yet they could never throw and it seemed fine having them both out there for 4 or 5 seasons. It seems to have gotten much better the last several years after years of the knowing it's coming ugliness. Boston now has a reputation of slamming guys when they are out the door. Frank Thomas' departure was a big s*** show, too. Partly his fault, but telling a guy who was the lone reason to go to a Sox game for a long stretch of bad seasons was poor form on the Sox part. Even if the player is a chirpy type, take the high road. One of the benefits/side-effects of Rick Hahn being GM is that he brings a high level of professionalism to the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (Tex @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 11:18 AM) Have you found any good Rays' fan sites? no but havent looked because the Miami Hurricanes, big soccer and this board is all I really need when it comes to forums. I'll check out a Rays and Bucs blog for that info. I really just keep to the Sports Pub sub-forum here because this site has a lot of smart and good posters. For a site that is geared to the Sox, it does have a good make up of fans of other sports which creates good conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Now he is effectively free. MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 56m The #RedSox announced that they have released A.J. Pierzynski: http://bit.ly/1mMJlN7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Free to sign anywhere he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So, uh... any AJ news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 11:06 AM) So, uh... any AJ news? There's a celebration parade today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 MLBTR: Cardinals Working on Deal with Pierzynski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 08:22 PM) MLBTR: Cardinals Working on Deal with Pierzynski Hooray! Anywhere but Chicago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian310 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 09:01 PM) Hooray! Anywhere but Chicago! Ironically enough he will be in Chicago tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Cardinals agree to deal with A.J. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseba...n-aj-pierzynski Edited July 26, 2014 by whtsoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I am going to have to see another Cardinals game this year now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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