December 3, 201411 yr QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 03:17 PM) Toronto trade for an injured player? Unheard of! ***Mike Sirotka puts head down***
December 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) Pretty sure he was dealing with some severe back pain down the stretch last year, wasn't he? Just everything about that situation reminded me of Crede. He had a great 2006 up until September and then he was never, ever the same player again. Please don't remind me of Crede..I really liked that guy. I think you're right about Donaldson though
December 5, 201411 yr http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/12/05/lev...-for-white-sox/ Interesting that Samardzija had mentioned interest in White Sox to Levine in the past.
December 8, 201411 yr The Chicago #Whitesox are looming as the #frontrunner to acquire #Athletics ace Jeff Samardzija after the clubs engaged in serious talks https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/541918673565261824 Oakland and the White Sox have been frequent trade partners through the years. Execs on both sides say they work well together. #Samardzija https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/541924420751605760
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:41 AM) The Chicago #Whitesox are looming as the #frontrunner to acquire #Athletics ace Jeff Samardzija after the clubs engaged in serious talks https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/541918673565261824 Oakland and the White Sox have been frequent trade partners through the years. Execs on both sides say they work well together. #Samardzija https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/541924420751605760 As long as Rodon and Anderson are not involved, I'm ok dealing for him
December 8, 201411 yr As long as Rodon and Anderson are not involved, I'm ok dealing for him Rodon can't be involved.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:47 AM) Rodon can't be involved. Yes he can as a PTBNL
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:51 AM) I will say I'm 99.9999% say that Rodon won't be involved. Yeah I'm just saying that I really only consider a few guys untouchable prospects in our org prospect wiese and hes one of them.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:49 AM) Yes he can as a PTBNL Prospects of his caliber are never PTBNLs. I would have to think MLB would frown upon that as it's clearly just a way to try and circumvent the rules.
December 8, 201411 yr Not sure how I'd feel about it, but I could see a Semien & Montas package getting a deal done. Regardless, I hope the Sox think they can extend him this offseason if they acquire Shark.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:49 AM) Yes he can as a PTBNL Actually, no. PTBNL has to be named within six months, and there hasn't been enough time since the draft.
December 8, 201411 yr I certainly hope he is extended right away if they trade for Samardzija. It'll be interesting to see what happens this week.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 05:09 AM) I certainly hope he is extended right away if they trade for Samardzija. It'll be interesting to see what happens this week. If Sox lock up Shark long term it would shock the baseball world. That's how unlikely it is. Edited December 8, 201411 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
December 8, 201411 yr Oh joy, now we have to deal with another 20 pages on how this terrible idea is something the white sox should do.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:46 AM) Oh joy, now we have to deal with another 20 pages on how this terrible idea is something the white sox should do. You don't even know the parameters of a potential deal and you're already calling it terrible? Let's give Hahn the benefit of the doubt here. He isn't going to do something stupid.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:54 AM) You don't even know the parameters of a potential deal and you're already calling it terrible? Let's give Hahn the benefit of the doubt here. He isn't going to do something stupid. I think he's complaining about the people complaining when they see this
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:46 AM) Oh joy, now we have to deal with another 20 pages on how this terrible idea is something the white sox should do. It's dirty, thankless work, but somebody's gotta do it.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:54 AM) You don't even know the parameters of a potential deal and you're already calling it terrible? Let's give Hahn the benefit of the doubt here. He isn't going to do something stupid. I can't come up with parameters of any deal that makes sense for the White Sox to my eyes unless Samardzija gives the White Sox a large hometown discount that he wouldn't give the Cubs. Otherwise, moving anyone of even minor value from the White Sox's system for Samardzija seems silly to me and a much worse option than going and spending that huge, 9 figure money on someone like Shields or Scherzer.
December 8, 201411 yr Rodon? For 1 year of Shark? Are you nuts? Rodon may be able to = Shark, a number 2 at best, next year. Alexei only. No way does a team with 3/4 top prospects give 1/4-1/3 of that for shark. Even secondary prospects like Rondon, who becomes elite if he learns to hit, should be off the table.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:41 AM) The Chicago #Whitesox are looming as the #frontrunner to acquire #Athletics ace Jeff Samardzija after the clubs engaged in serious talks https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/541918673565261824 Oakland and the White Sox have been frequent trade partners through the years. Execs on both sides say they work well together. #Samardzija https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/541924420751605760 #frontrunner? Hashtag frontrunner?? I don't think BNightengale understands what hashtags are for.
December 8, 201411 yr Oh, yea, we work well together. Give them Durham for free. Trade Foulke for Koch. Trade 3/5 to prospects for that elite bat, Swisher. Sure, Williams was always willing to pile on prospects, and that worked very well for Beane.
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:21 AM) Oh, yea, we work well together. Give them Durham for free. Trade Foulke for Koch. Trade 3/5 to prospects for that elite bat, Swisher. Sure, Williams was always willing to pile on prospects, and that worked very well for Beane. Well, they took Dunn. So, all previous bad trades forgiven
December 8, 201411 yr QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:14 AM) Rodon? For 1 year of Shark? Are you nuts? Rodon may be able to = Shark, a number 2 at best, next year. Alexei only. No way does a team with 3/4 top prospects give 1/4-1/3 of that for shark. Even secondary prospects like Rondon, who becomes elite if he learns to hit, should be off the table. And if you carefully read the posts on the last page, no one is suggesting this...
December 8, 201411 yr If the Sox do trade for him, they are going to have to give up value. Whether it is one year or not, you theoretically get a frontline pitcher for a discount, and if you can't sign him, you get a supplemental pick. So for the year of service, the 9 or 10 months of exclusive negotiation rights, and the insurance of a decent draft pick, it isn't like you are going to be able to get him for someone who doesn't have a really good chance of succeeding.
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