July 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 08:15 PM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/137998440?pa...;adbpr=18479513 yah.... can't believe this crap.
July 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 03:30 PM) I was made fun of for how many times I said I wanted Grandal. Ugh. Wasn't made fun of, but the two catchers I wanted to acquire most in the past year were Grandal and Jakson Reetz.
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 21, 2015 -> 03:50 PM) Have you looked at his Charlotte numbers at all? They're really good and it appears that whatever was causing his failure last year is gone. Unless it is something between the ears.
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 04:15 PM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/137998440?pa...;adbpr=18479513 I like the suggestion of packaging a reliever for a better return that appears in there.
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:03 PM) So are we thinking there's any chance he gets traded before his start tonight? #charlottewatch #hugwatch
July 23, 201510 yr Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 20m20 minutes ago On value of sandwich pick -- observer thinks 31-40 in 2016 may not yield an impact player but could produce an evday MLBer. Better than '15. Worth noting, definitely interesting to think about.
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 20m20 minutes ago On value of sandwich pick -- observer thinks 31-40 in 2016 may not yield an impact player but could produce an evday MLBer. Better than '15. Worth noting, definitely interesting to think about. Is there any doubt that the "observer"'s paycheck is signed by Jerry Reinsdorf?
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 20m20 minutes ago On value of sandwich pick -- observer thinks 31-40 in 2016 may not yield an impact player but could produce an evday MLBer. Better than '15. Worth noting, definitely interesting to think about. It should be lower than 31 as guys will give up first rounders to sign guys.
July 23, 201510 yr The #Astros also had Jeff Samardzija on their radar, but couldn't afford to wait for #WhiteSox to decide on a course of action. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/624275652238266368 Stupid front office thinking they could win when we knew it was over
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) It should be lower than 31 as guys will give up first rounders to sign guys. You're right, I believe the Rockies got 26 for Michael Cuddyer this last draft.
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) The #Astros also had Jeff Samardzija on their radar, but couldn't afford to wait for #WhiteSox to decide on a course of action. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/624275652238266368 Stupid front office thinking they could win when we knew it was over I don't think it's about winning this year, but within the next 2. Nottingham doesn't really fit in that 2 year plan.
July 23, 201510 yr The biggest issue that I have had with the Sox through this whole process was that they waited to see if they could get back into it. This is from Fangraphs earlier today: "You have to go all the way back to the 1998 Twins (-4.7) to find a worse group of position players by WAR and those Twins have about 3,000 plate appearances on the 2015 White Sox. Only the 1998 Twins, 1963 Mets, 1977 Braves, and 1979 A’s have had lower position player WAR than this year’s White Sox. And only the 1979 A’s, at -9.7 WAR, are far enough ahead (behind?) to feel comfortable the White Sox won’t catch them come October." When you are the 5th worst team since 1963, there is no "wait and see" approach at that point. You're a seller. Edited July 23, 201510 yr by oneofthemikes
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 06:53 PM) The #Astros also had Jeff Samardzija on their radar, but couldn't afford to wait for #WhiteSox to decide on a course of action. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/624275652238266368 Stupid front office thinking they could win when we knew it was over An organization that thought it had the bodies to win didn't even have the balls to fire Robin. That was the ONLY chance at seeing if this team had a WC run in it, which it didn't. So why no trades by now???
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 08:24 PM) An organization that thought it had the bodies to win didn't even have the balls to fire Robin. That was the ONLY chance at seeing if this team had a WC run in it, which it didn't. So why no trades by now??? it needs to include more than rv....
July 23, 201510 yr Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 10m10 minutes ago The #Astros engaged in talks with #Whitesox about Jeff Samardzija before acquiring Kazmir from #Athletics, sources say. Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 9m9 minutes ago One source said it came down to #Astros and #Athletics being a "better fit'' more than #Whitesox being indecisive to deal. Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 9m9 minutes ago I'm also hearing #WhiteSox are active in trade talks even though they haven't thrown up the white flag publicly. Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 8m8 minutes ago #WhiteSox think they can still get a significant haul for Samardzija at deadline. #BlueJays among several clubs interested.
July 23, 201510 yr I would love Hoffman for Shark. Then I'd turn around and deal Q for position talent, including Puig. Dodgers have plenty of position talent that is a match and could help retool the team (yes we take a hit in the rotation) but the front office has to be true and fair to themselves and realize we don't have other components without trading one of our guys that we can get multiple chips for (and Sale / Q are basically the only other guys, with the potential exception of Abreu, who I suppose you could move, although I hand't thought about it and given we already don't have position players don't know that it really makes sense).
July 23, 201510 yr Interesting tidbits from Jerry Crasnik via twitter. 1. I'm also hearing #WhiteSox are active in trade talks even though they haven't thrown up the white flag publicly. 2.#WhiteSox think they can still get a significant haul for Samardzija at deadline. #BlueJays among several clubs interested. He also said the Astros & Rays just fit better to make a deal, didn't have anything to do with Hahn/Williams being indecisive.
July 23, 201510 yr Who would be an ideal return from the BlueJays? What about Pentecost since they need a C? Hoffman worries me, since he's already had a TJ surgery.
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) Who would be an ideal return from the BlueJays? What about Pentecost since they need a C? Hoffman worries me, since he's already had a TJ surgery. If Hoffman worries you, Pentecost should worry you as well because he hasn't played all year because of shoulder surgery.
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 10m10 minutes ago The #Astros engaged in talks with #Whitesox about Jeff Samardzija before acquiring Kazmir from #Athletics, sources say. Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 9m9 minutes ago One source said it came down to #Astros and #Athletics being a "better fit'' more than #Whitesox being indecisive to deal. Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 9m9 minutes ago I'm also hearing #WhiteSox are active in trade talks even though they haven't thrown up the white flag publicly. Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 8m8 minutes ago #WhiteSox think they can still get a significant haul for Samardzija at deadline. #BlueJays among several clubs interested. Damage control.
July 23, 201510 yr Oh the significant haul talk. Remember that pre Peavy trade talk? Some of the best prospects in baseball. Yeah that's what this sounds like.
July 23, 201510 yr I think Shark is dealt before his next start. I'm guessing to Toronto early next week.
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