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This is bonkers.

 

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 1h1 hour ago

Doing base running research -- 2015 #WhiteSox were the first team since the 2002 Rangers to not steal third base in a season. Went 0-for-3.

 

South Side Sox ‏@SouthSideSox 1h1 hour ago

@CSNHayes First White Sox team to not steal third since 1949. http://www.southsidesox.com/2015/10/8/9477...no-go-white-sox

Also interesting.

 

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 25m25 minutes ago Scottsdale, AZ

 

CWS thought they had Frazier and Lawrie on same WM day. The pursuit of Frazier started at last Trade Deadline. '16 plan began last August...

 

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 11m11 minutes ago

 

One reason Rick Renteria was brought in was to help #WhiteSox improve upon base running. High energy, hands-on guy. http://bit.ly/1Qo9Q8R

Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 19m19 minutes ago

 

Big news out of Chris Sale's media session today. He says he has gained weight. Now at 190.

 

Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 19m19 minutes ago

 

Big news out of Chris Sale's media session today. He says he has gained weight. Now at 190.

 

Last time I weighed 190 I was 16.

So he gained 10 pounds. Wonder how/if that will affect his pitching

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 2h2 hours ago Scottsdale, AZ

 

Carson Fulmer, Carlos Rodon and Erik Johnson the next three starters on tap for the White Sox after today

 

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 03:26 PM)
Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 11m11 minutes ago

 

One reason Rick Renteria was brought in was to help #WhiteSox improve upon base running. High energy, hands-on guy. http://bit.ly/1Qo9Q8R

 

It's hard to be optimistic about the defense or base-running improving much.

 

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 04:26 PM)
Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 11m11 minutes ago

 

One reason Rick Renteria was brought in was to help #WhiteSox improve upon base running. High energy, hands-on guy. http://bit.ly/1Qo9Q8R

Is Coleman still on the coaching staff?

Your team base running is good if your players are good base runners. Coaches aren't going to magically make them better or faster

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 5, 2016 -> 08:34 AM)
Your team base running is good if your players are good base runners. Coaches aren't going to magically make them better or faster

Who do you think calls for the majority of stolen base attempts? I seriously doubt most players have the green light at all times (and if they do that falls on the coaching staff). If Mark Parent was that guy, getting a new bench coach could help significantly.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 5, 2016 -> 09:34 AM)
Your team base running is good if your players are good base runners. Coaches aren't going to magically make them better or faster

Honestly, I really disagree with this. Baserunning can't possibly be entirely instinctual, that's a skill unless you're Paul Konerko. "Do I go first to third under these circumstances" is a set of decisions that you can practice for. How many times do we see some guy who isn't the fastest but who is an effective baserunner because they recognize situations like that?

 

Furthermore, it's clearly not always the fastest guy first to second who is the best base stealer. Take our own decade ago example - Scott Podsednik was a great base stealer for a few years because he was fast enough and had extremely good tecnhique - he wasn't even the fastest guy on that team IIRC (Ozuna was probably faster in a foot race on sand). Pods knew how to read a pitcher, to get the appropriate first step, and then to nail the run and the slide and that overcame his footspeed limitations. We see the same thing with guys who are great base stealers in the minors based on pure speed, but when they get to the big leagues and see better moves and better throwing catchers their numbers drop a lot.

 

A coach can't turn Paul Konerko into a base stealer, but the game of baseball as I've watched it strongly suggests that baserunning is a place where coaching can make a solid contribution.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 5, 2016 -> 09:30 AM)
Honestly, I really disagree with this. Baserunning can't possibly be entirely instinctual, that's a skill unless you're Paul Konerko. "Do I go first to third under these circumstances" is a set of decisions that you can practice for. How many times do we see some guy who isn't the fastest but who is an effective baserunner because they recognize situations like that?

 

Furthermore, it's clearly not always the fastest guy first to second who is the best base stealer. Take our own decade ago example - Scott Podsednik was a great base stealer for a few years because he was fast enough and had extremely good tecnhique - he wasn't even the fastest guy on that team IIRC (Ozuna was probably faster in a foot race on sand). Pods knew how to read a pitcher, to get the appropriate first step, and then to nail the run and the slide and that overcame his footspeed limitations. We see the same thing with guys who are great base stealers in the minors based on pure speed, but when they get to the big leagues and see better moves and better throwing catchers their numbers drop a lot.

 

A coach can't turn Paul Konerko into a base stealer, but the game of baseball as I've watched it strongly suggests that baserunning is a place where coaching can make a solid contribution.

 

Great post, I agree. Baserunning is of course speed predicated and you can't teach that aspect, but it is a technique as much as any other skill of the sport. Perfect the technique and the performance has to improve in some regards.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 5, 2016 -> 09:30 AM)
Honestly, I really disagree with this. Baserunning can't possibly be entirely instinctual, that's a skill unless you're Paul Konerko. "Do I go first to third under these circumstances" is a set of decisions that you can practice for. How many times do we see some guy who isn't the fastest but who is an effective baserunner because they recognize situations like that?

 

Furthermore, it's clearly not always the fastest guy first to second who is the best base stealer. Take our own decade ago example - Scott Podsednik was a great base stealer for a few years because he was fast enough and had extremely good tecnhique - he wasn't even the fastest guy on that team IIRC (Ozuna was probably faster in a foot race on sand). Pods knew how to read a pitcher, to get the appropriate first step, and then to nail the run and the slide and that overcame his footspeed limitations. We see the same thing with guys who are great base stealers in the minors based on pure speed, but when they get to the big leagues and see better moves and better throwing catchers their numbers drop a lot.

 

A coach can't turn Paul Konerko into a base stealer, but the game of baseball as I've watched it strongly suggests that baserunning is a place where coaching can make a solid contribution.

 

I totally fall into this camp. While there is some instinct, there are plenty of skills that can be taught.

Base running can be taught to a certain point. And most of these guys are at the point where they have pretty much been taught most of what they can be taught. For guys that are potentially elite base stealers there is may be another technique or key that could push them, but for the most part you don't hear too much about guys becoming great base runners who used to be horrible. You see it the other way around when guys lose some speed but their brain doesn't seem to realize it. And by base running, not just stealing bases. That actually seems to be a smaller part of base running than in the past. It is about getting good jumps, checking your outfielders, knowing to let a ball get through the infield etc. Drills and actual game situations are about as different as practicing a speech in your bathroom and giving it that day in front packed auditorium. Experience helps.

 

 

. Renteria was a fine hire, but the reason the sox will be better at base running this year is because they have better base runners.

RT @JonHeyman: Jacob Turner, former 1st round pick, has impressed early at chisox camp. Latos favored for No. 5 SP spot, but JT in mix.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 12:09 PM)
RT @JonHeyman: Jacob Turner, former 1st round pick, has impressed early at chisox camp. Latos favored for No. 5 SP spot, but JT in mix.

I really hope Danks isn't guaranteed a spot in the rotation. If both Latos & Turner (or Johnson for that matter) look good, then Danks should start the season as the long man in the pen.

I bet Latos and Danks will get the final 2 spots but Turner will be stashed in the pen as a long reliever/emergency starter until a spot opens. They won't dfa him with the risk of losing him if he continues to impress.

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