OmarComing25 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 It does seem odd that if the Sox and Mets are holding firm at 3 years and the Nationals are guaranteeing him 5 that he hasn't signed already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:36 PM) Has there even been any mention of us all day? Usually quiet is good when it comes to this team. Not really no. All is quiet. That's why I'm optimistic. So much smoke and talk surrounding the Nats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) It does seem odd that if the Sox and Mets are holding firm at 3 years and the Nationals are guaranteeing him 5 that he hasn't signed already. Â Â I know I agree with you. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) It does seem odd that if the Sox and Mets are holding firm at 3 years and the Nationals are guaranteeing him 5 that he hasn't signed already. Â Because the offer is bulls*** and not real. That's why. Nats have no need for Cespedes, and certainly not at $20+ million and benching another $20 million guy to make room for him. A complete agent and media ploy to get more years and money from the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Nats fans think its a ploy to get Mets to pay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:03 PM) Because the offer is bulls*** and not real. That's why. Nats have no need for Cespedes, and certainly not at $20+ million and benching another $20 million guy to make room for him. A complete agent and media ploy to get more years and money from the White Sox. Â Idk if it's bulls*** maybe cespedes wants 125 mil. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) It does seem odd that if the Sox and Mets are holding firm at 3 years and the Nationals are guaranteeing him 5 that he hasn't signed already. the 5 years can mean so many things. It's all so hard with what's leaking what and for what purposes. It's entirely possible that it's 5 years, backloaded, but only three years are guaranteed and 4 and 5 are team options.... Â lots of scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:03 PM) Nats fans think its a ploy to get Mets to pay up. I agree with Mets fans. The Nats and Mets are the only teams that will compete in that division since the Phillies and Braves are rebuilding and the Marlins are, well, the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (WSkid @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 05:48 PM) If the FO thinks Cespedes is the best choice and they don`t sign him because they`re worrying about 2-3 yrs down the road then they deserve an empty ballpark.If they think Cespedes is the best bet to get to the playoffs and maybe the WS then they do whatever they have to to sign him.If they don`t think he can get them in the playoffs they shouldn`t even be talking to him.1 WS in 35 yrs they should be doing all they can to win. I would disagree. Just because he is the best current choice doesn't mean he is the best choice later in the off season or next year, maybe the team that signs him trades someone for next to nothing. Â Just because he is the hot topic doesn't mean he is the best choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 12:11 AM) I would disagree. Just because he is the best current choice doesn't mean he is the best choice later in the off season or next year, maybe the team that signs him trades someone for next to nothing. Â Just because he is the hot topic doesn't mean he is the best choice. Â The FA class is extremely weak next year and they really don't have the resources to land a good OF through trade, so if they don't upgrade at RF this offseason, it'll likely be an offensive blackhole in 2017 too. Edited January 22, 2016 by chunk23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The Yoenis Cespedes Tinder story is probably fake  http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/the-yoenis...s-probably-fake  Just to show some of the bulls*** that's on social media and how pathetic social media is becoming. Take all rumors with a grain of salt until proven otherwise. Funny read though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:15 PM) The FA class is extremely weak next year and they really don't have the resources to land a good OF through trade, so if they don't upgrade at RF this offseason, it'll likely be an offensive blackhole in 2017 too. That's a possibility but not definite. They have a few really good prospects they could trade, if the return was worth it. It all depends on who becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Josh Reddick will be a FA after the '16 season. If we start a "Sign Reddick" thread now, we should easily hit 1k pages before seasons end. Edited January 22, 2016 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:18 PM) http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/the-yoenis...s-probably-fake Just to show some of the bulls*** that's on social media and how pathetic social media is becoming. Take all rumors with a grain of salt until proven otherwise. Funny read though.  Cripes lolol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 If any of you are interested. Scott Merkin said on this weeks podcast that he's heard about the 3 year offer for Cespedes and other sources tell him the Sox could be done for the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:27 PM) If any of you are interested. Scott Merkin said on this weeks podcast that he's heard about the 3 year offer for Cespedes and other sources tell him the Sox could be done for the offseason. Â He's been wrong quite a bit this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:57 PM) Always good to look these things up before commenting. Alvarez, as a platoon DH wouldn't be required to field anything. His inability to do so is what has driven his price down to dirt cheap. 24 homers and a.799 OPS against righties last year. I dont need to look anything up to know the Sox arent signing Alvarez while they are still stuck with Laroche. Â Always good to think things thru before commenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) He's been wrong quite a bit this off season. Â He has but would it surprise anyone if they went into the offseason with Garcia in the OF? I dont think so at all. Infact I expect it at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:30 PM) He has but would it surprise anyone if they went into the offseason with Garcia in the OF? I dont think so at all. Infact I expect it at this point. Why? There are other OF options still on the board. And Desmond as well, if they want another bat that badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:32 PM) Why? There are other OF options still on the board. And Desmond as well, if they want another bat that badly  I still think they have perhaps delusional thoughts on what he could turn into. After all they were the ones blowing smoke up our butts about how good he could possibly be only a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 12:33 AM) I still think they have perhaps delusional thoughts on what he could turn into. After all they were the ones blowing smoke up our butts about how good he could possibly be only a year ago. Â Yep afraid to admit a massive scouting mistake. I also have no doubt they don't play the system with the draft picks like the Astros did last year. Edited January 22, 2016 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I actually feel bad for Avi that he's going to be at SoxFest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 07:32 PM) Why? There are other OF options still on the board. And Desmond as well, if they want another bat that badly  which they obviously don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Thread closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) What happened? Â He FINALLY officially signed with someone? Â That would lead to approximately 150 more pages of posts, lol... Edited January 22, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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