Another good result. Would have liked to see Howard play better, but otherwise, Brian Hoyer-led victories over crap teams do nothing for us.

That's true. Lots of decent individual performances and then crap play by Hoyer and Tracy Porter falling to turf

So, I'd still say give Fox more time next year, but you're starting to see the Fox Hunters circling.

The Bears' 17-16 collapse on Sunday is the low point of the Fox era. The Bears have regressed in year two under Fox.

 

There is no growth right now that anyone in the organization can point to for next year.

The Bears won the turnover battle +2, had more yardage than JAX, and more first downs, and managed to lose. That isn't easy to do in the NFL.

So, I'd still say give Fox more time next year, but you're starting to see the Fox Hunters circling.

 

Yeah, you don't want to turn into Browns/Raiders territory

Maybe it's not Fox so much as the talent his GM has given him to work with? That and all the injuries, particularly to first and second round picks.

 

Did Leonard Floyd even play today? I do not remember his name being called.

Maybe it's not Fox so much as the talent his GM has given him to work with? That and all the injuries, particularly to first and second round picks.

 

Did Leonard Floyd even play today? I do not remember his name being called.

Injured.

What's going on with Rodgers?

I can't think of a QB I've watched who generates so much offensive volume but has so little impact on the game as Hoyer. I guess he is the perfect John Fox quarterback. He simply exists, and he doesn't really do much for the game positively or negatively. He's so god damn timid in the red zone, it's like he knows everyone notices he has no interceptions and as soon as he throws one the bubble will pop. He's just the latest guy to show up and milk the f*** out of Not Being Jay Cutler.

 

This was a vintage John Fox loss. Technically show up to play the game, do the minimum, allow yourself to lose. You just know that at the end of the game, Fox was playing for a field goal even though he had 2 minutes to score a touchdown.

It's it just me, or does Aaron Rodgers kind of suck.

It's it just me, or does Aaron Rodgers kind of suck.

 

Yup he looks absolutely horrid. Missing wide open receivers with wide throws.

It's it just me, or does Aaron Rodgers kind of suck.

He will be on fire Thursday night.

That Elliott pick doesn't look so bad does it?

Gotta be some sort of injury with Rodgers, right?

Gotta be some sort of injury with Rodgers, right?

 

Or just a complete loss of confidence.

 

He seemed much more indecisive in the pocket. Almost Cutler-like with some of his pump fakes.

I can't think of a QB I've watched who generates so much offensive volume but has so little impact on the game as Hoyer. I guess he is the perfect John Fox quarterback. He simply exists, and he doesn't really do much for the game positively or negatively. He's so god damn timid in the red zone, it's like he knows everyone notices he has no interceptions and as soon as he throws one the bubble will pop. He's just the latest guy to show up and milk the f*** out of Not Being Jay Cutler.

 

This was a vintage John Fox loss. Technically show up to play the game, do the minimum, allow yourself to lose. You just know that at the end of the game, Fox was playing for a field goal even though he had 2 minutes to score a touchdown.

 

That said...you can still run a passing offense with Hoyer. He is alone with Josh McCown of true backups that you can run an offense with. *Shane Matthews/ Jim Miller don't count as that was not offense.

That said...you can still run a passing offense with Hoyer. He is alone with Josh McCown of true backups that you can run an offense with. *Shane Matthews/ Jim Miller don't count as that was not offense.

McCown didn't play scared though. He just played. His production was definitely a bubble but it didn't matter. Hoyer seems like he's aware that he's in a bubble.

McCown didn't play scared though. He just played. His production was definitely a bubble but it didn't matter. Hoyer seems like he's aware that he's in a bubble.

 

I mean, he's a backup though. I don't want Hoyer to be a longterm starter, but I'm content with the org taking the opportunity of this season to truly tank and make a clean break into new era.

 

But, for what we paid him to do, Hoyer is good. I mean, we've seen Claussen, Hanie, I don't even remember the guy who Hanie replaced. Todd Collins? Jason Campbell was crap when I thought he would be best backup we've had when he signed.

I can't think of a QB I've watched who generates so much offensive volume but has so little impact on the game as Hoyer. I guess he is the perfect John Fox quarterback. He simply exists, and he doesn't really do much for the game positively or negatively. He's so god damn timid in the red zone, it's like he knows everyone notices he has no interceptions and as soon as he throws one the bubble will pop. He's just the latest guy to show up and milk the f*** out of Not Being Jay Cutler.

 

This was a vintage John Fox loss. Technically show up to play the game, do the minimum, allow yourself to lose. You just know that at the end of the game, Fox was playing for a field goal even though he had 2 minutes to score a touchdown.

 

Again, it is easy to manage a game between the 20s when you have the entire field to concern a defense with. Once you are inside the 20, and the windows tighten, it takes some physical ability to make something happen. That is why Brian Hoyer isn't going to do much with this team. Sure you could put Hoyer on the field with a historic Bears defense, and he would win you 12 or 13 games, maybe even a Super Bowl. Put Brian Hoyer on the field with a historically mediocre defense, and you get 1-5.

Is there a college QB that would fit the Bears' offense?

 

 

Is there a college QB that would fit the Bears' offense?

 

I honestly dont know what the Bears offense is.

I mean, he's a backup though. I don't want Hoyer to be a longterm starter, but I'm content with the org taking the opportunity of this season to truly tank and make a clean break into new era.

 

But, for what we paid him to do, Hoyer is good. I mean, we've seen Claussen, Hanie, I don't even remember the guy who Hanie replaced. Todd Collins? Jason Campbell was crap when I thought he would be best backup we've had when he signed.

I think I'm talking about the "he's thrown 300+ in all his games and has no turnovers" with all the implications that has when people mention it. People are giving that importance that it doesn't have.

Because of their regression, the Bears are in a good position to acquire a franchise QB, but even assuming they don't blow the pick, I don't trust the Fox regime with a young QB.

I honestly dont know what the Bears offense is.

 

Yeah, it certainly doesn't seem like it would be so ridgid we're fitting players into it.

 

 

Yeah, and cherry on top was losing due to falling from turf

I thought that loss was about perfect and summed up the team nicely. We don't have playmakers to get touchdowns in the red zone and in the end we don't have enough talent to disrupt on the defensive side of the ball either. I would have hated a garbage win and it was an acceptable loss (I.e., we didn't get totally burried). The coaching definitely resulted in part of that loss. I don't know what the hell we were doing in that two minute drill at the end of the first half (did we think we had all the time in the world...that was really poorly executed).

 

What was going on with Howard getting a lot less attempts? Just more about Carey playing well in some spurts (other then that costly drop on 3rd down).