macsandz Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Can this thread can get back on track soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) I don't know, that seems like it could be coincidental. I'm not saying that you don't, but predicting a move would go a long way in convincing people. Nobody on this board believes Cowley, but RockRaines oh man he's right on. There is no logic here. Bottom line is believe who you want to believe. Edited October 1, 2011 by Marty34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 01:10 PM) Nobody on this board believes Cowley, but RockRaines oh man he's right on. There is no logic here. Bottom line is believe who you want to believe. Rock probably has a better record, and we respect his motivations more than Cowley's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) Rock probably has a better record, and we respect his motivations more than Cowley's. "probably" or "does", which is it? Is this a fact or opinion? Edited October 1, 2011 by Marty34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 12:10 PM) Nobody on this board believes Cowley, but RockRaines oh man he's right on. There is no logic here. Bottom line is believe who you want to believe. Rockraines talks about moves that are going to be made, and many times he is right. Cowley talks about innuendo and things like "Cooper and KW better not go to the state of Atlanta after what I heard went down" and makes references to KW stepping out on his wife doesnt even back any of it up with any story or anything. It may very well be true, but all it looks like is gossip from a jilted columnist that cannot get a interview with KW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 12:17 PM) Rockraines talks about moves that are going to be made, and many times he is right. Such as? Cowley talks about innuendo and things like "Cooper and KW better not go to the state of Atlanta after what I heard went down" and makes references to KW stepping out on his wife doesnt even back any of it up with any story or anything. It may very well be true, but all it looks like is gossip from a jilted columnist that cannot get a interview with KW. Cowley was the first to report of the rift between Guillen and Williams. The only reason he is not believed is because he gets his information from Guillen's side exclusively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 01:25 PM) Cowley was the first to report of the rift between Guillen and Williams. The only reason he is not believed is because he gets his information from Guillen's side exclusively. WTF? The first? Hell, they admitted there was a rift last year on "The Club". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) WTF? The first? Hell, they admitted there was a rift last year on "The Club". And that was the first you heard of it? Come on now. It is my opinion that the dislike of Cowley stems from the fact that he slapped down SoxTalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 12:39 PM) And that was the first you heard of it? Come on now. It is my opinion that the dislike of Cowley stems from the fact that he slapped down SoxTalk. Not really. He's just an unprofessional goof. Cowley laughs at Phil Rogers for getting scolded for calling out KW, then calls him out himself. Also remember Rogers had Ozzie going to the Marlins 15 months ago. I think that was before Cowley became BFF with Oney and started his campaign. But we will see. Joe did say several months ago, the Sox would hire a puppet. I believe Daryl Boston is who he mentioned. Looks like Joe will be wrong yet again. I may think less of KW than Cowley does. But Cowley calls KW a liar and finds excuses every time Ozzie contridicts himself. Ozzie goes on a rant about money, then the next day says his leaving is nothing about money. He mentions loyalty. The Sox gave him an extension after 2007. Picked up his extension he cried about last year, then Ozzie says he can't work under the extension. Perhaps Ozzie at one time was a good manager, but now much the same as Ditka, Ozzie is about Ozzie. I'm glad he and his doofus son are gone, now JR needs a new GM and we are back in business, although I do think getting rid of one of the two will make a huge difference. I really believe their dynamic was pulling the organization down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) But we will see. Joe did say several months ago, the Sox would hire a puppet. I believe Daryl Boston is who he mentioned. Looks like Joe will be wrong yet again. In my opinion, if it's Alomar it will be a puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 12:25 PM) Cowley was the first to report of the rift between Guillen and Williams. The only reason he is not believed is because he gets his information from Guillen's side exclusively. There was a rift the moment he was hired, hell didn't they end up having an argument during Ozzie's interview? Even when things were going good KW/Ozzie seemingly were always on thin ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 How exactly did Cowley slap down Soxtalk? I'm not being facetious, I honestly don't know what he means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 03:02 PM) How exactly did Cowley slap down Soxtalk? I'm not being facetious, I honestly don't know what he means. Wasn't it the AGON thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 i believe he is referring to the "reporting from mothers basement" comments from the rumored Konerko to Anaheim deal. But then again, Marty thinks VictoryMC slapped everyone down too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz...8?new_post=true Francona not in White Sox's picture; Rays' Martinez is The White Sox do not plan to shift course in their managerial search now that Terry Francona has left the Red Sox, according to a major-league source with knowledge of the team’s thinking. General manager Ken Williams continues to work off his short list, the source said. Rays bench coach Dave Martinez, according to a second source, is at the top of that list. Martinez, a former outfielder, played for the White Sox from 1995 to '97. The White Sox also like Yankees bench coach Tony Pena, but Martinez is their No. 1 target, the second source said. Both Martinez and Pena currently are unavailable; their respective teams are in the post-season. Williams has said he has a preferred candidate to replace Ozzie Guillen, whom the White Sox traded to the Marlins for two minor leagues. Williams said he could name a new manager before the start of the World Series. -Ken Rosenthal It's nice to see Martinez at the top of the list. As for Pena: bleh. I know Buddy Bell replaced Tony Pena as the Royals manager but I'm not aware of any other connection, thinking that Pena could be his suggestion. Martinez, Alomar, Pena, LaRussa (big time longshot). Seems like this is what we're looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 03:27 PM) http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz...8?new_post=true It's nice to see Martinez at the top of the list. As for Pena: bleh. I know Buddy Bell replaced Tony Pena as the Royals manager but I'm not aware of any other connection, thinking that Pena could be his suggestion. Martinez, Alomar, Pena, LaRussa (big time longshot). Seems like this is what we're looking at. Pena played for the Sox in '97 and managed their rookie team in '98. Agree with your rankings of candidates, I'd put Pena as a longer shot than LaRussa. Least I hope he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 If the Sox hired Martinez, do you think he'd bring in Sandberg to be the bench coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I have no doubt Marty is Cowley or his guy on 35th is Cowley. He brought him up in defense when we were talking about how Rock is generally spot on and Marty's guy seemed unproven...he mentioned Cowley "breaking" the story on a riff we've all known about for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) I have no doubt Marty is Cowley or his guy on 35th is Cowley. He brought him up in defense when we were talking about how Rock is generally spot on and Marty's guy seemed unproven...he mentioned Cowley "breaking" the story on a riff we've all known about for years. Cowley is not my guy on 35th. Still waiting on an example of RockRaines breaking a story here. Amazing how you can pass along info that you hear and get mocked for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) I have no doubt Marty is Cowley or his guy on 35th is Cowley. He brought him up in defense when we were talking about how Rock is generally spot on and Marty's guy seemed unproven...he mentioned Cowley "breaking" the story on a riff we've all known about for years. I think I must agree. I thought 2K5 was PMsing. Looks like he was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Rock, got a catalog of your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 cst_Cowley cst_Cowley Next Sox manager - bet on Davey - suntimes.com/sports/cowley/… 2 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) Rock probably has a better record, and we respect his motivations more than Cowley's. Rock has a better record, definitely knows more about baseball than Cowley, and doesn't come across like a guy with an agenda against anyone. And while Rock is good, DocSox is the guy I put the most stock in here as far as inside info goes. If he says it, I take it to the bank. Cowley is just a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) If the Sox hired Martinez, do you think he'd bring in Sandberg to be the bench coach? Id love that just to see all the cubs fans weep that sandberg is coaching for the enemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) If the Sox hired Martinez, do you think he'd bring in Sandberg to be the bench coach? Palmeiro as the hitting coach too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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