Kalapse Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/...false-identity/ Jorge Arangure of ESPN.com passes along word from reporter Yancen Pujols that Indians right-hander Fausto Carmona was arrested in the Dominican Republic and is being charged with using a false identity. According to Pujols, Dominican police arrested Carmona–whose real name is apparently Roberto Hernandez Heredia–while he was leaving the American consulate after renewing his visa. Keeping you up to date on Dominican Pitcher name changes: Leo Nunez = Juan Carlos Oviedo Fausto Carmona = Roberto Hernandez Heredia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/...false-identity/ Keeping you up to date on Dominican Pitcher name changes: Leo Nunez = Juan Carlos Oviedo Fausto Carmona = Roberto Hernandez Heredia There is an update to the article which states that Carmona is actually 31, not 28... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Brand new name, same old pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hawk Harrelson @NotHawk Fausto Carmona's actual name is s***ty Pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is there any suspension ramifications from the MLB for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) Hawk Harrelson @NotHawk Fausto Carmona's actual name is s***ty Pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 09:36 PM) Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much. What if Alexei was really Dayan and Dayan, Alexei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 10:05 PM) What if Alexei was really Dayan and Dayan, Alexei? Exploding heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Guess he's going to often be confused with the former Sox closer unless he goes by Heredia, like GIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much. Farmio said Alexei was 33 last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much. Usually it's the Dominicans with the false information not the Cubans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:14 AM) Usually it's the Dominicans with the false information not the Cubans. The Cubans usually have the false ages though. El Duque and Jose Contreras come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:18 AM) The Cubans usually have the false ages though. El Duque and Jose Contreras come to mind. I generally only think of Dominicans with false ages, and false names for that matter. Santiago Casilla was Jairo Garcia, Juan Carlos Oviedo was Leo Nunez, whatever Roberto Hernandez Heredia was Fausto Carmona, and Vladimir Guerrero, not that long ago, was determined to be 1 year older than he was. I'm sure I'm missing quite a few as well. I think, to gain citizenship within the Dominican Republic, and then to gain a work visa through the United States, it's going to take a damn safe certification. Some may have gotten by it before 9/11, but I don't see it anymore. In fact, I think the Sox are smart in signing Cuban players because their ages are almost certain to be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 07:17 PM) Is there any suspension ramifications from the MLB for this? There hasn't been before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:14 AM) Usually it's the Dominicans with the false information not the Cubans. It is actually easier for the Cubans now, because there is no one to verify info with. The governments don't have any kind of a relationship to use for the verification purpose. If a person tells a team they are 21, how do you disprove it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 hoynsie paul hoynes #Indians could void Fausto Carmona's contract, but that appears unlikely. But Carmona has to get to U.S. to get paid this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 hoynsie paul hoynes Fausto Carmona ordered not to leave Dominican Repulic. Will be monitored by court. #Indians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) hoynsie paul hoynes Fausto Carmona ordered not to leave Dominican Repulic. Will be monitored by court. #Indians. The Sox, Royals, Twins, & Tigers should chip in some money for his legal team. If he can't make it back to the US, the Indians might fill his rotation spot with a pitcher who might actually be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think that Miguel Tejada was 2 years older than originally stated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 His real name turned out to be Carmen Faustona. Melton was right all along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:40 AM) I generally only think of Dominicans with false ages, and false names for that matter. Santiago Casilla was Jairo Garcia, Juan Carlos Oviedo was Leo Nunez, whatever Roberto Hernandez Heredia was Fausto Carmona, and Vladimir Guerrero, not that long ago, was determined to be 1 year older than he was. I'm sure I'm missing quite a few as well. I think, to gain citizenship within the Dominican Republic, and then to gain a work visa through the United States, it's going to take a damn safe certification. Some may have gotten by it before 9/11, but I don't see it anymore. In fact, I think the Sox are smart in signing Cuban players because their ages are almost certain to be correct. What kind of certification do you really think guys like Alexei and Contreras and El Duque really provide? Do you really think Cuba would cooperate and provide that information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 MLBastian Jordan Bastian Per Associated Press, citing manager Manny Acta, CLE expecting Fausto Carmona/Roberto Hernandez to miss Spring Training. No surprise there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 hoynsie paul hoynes #Indians place Roberto Hernandez Heredia, aka Fausto Carmona, on restricted list. Doesn't count against 40-man. No pay until he reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 White Sox Talk WhiteSoxTalkCSN White Sox Talk Farmio says Esteban Yan made himself older on his birth certificate. Esteban Yan! #SoxFest 2 hours ago WhiteSoxTalkCSN White Sox Talk Laumann: "For [Carmona] to make it as long as he did through the system and the checks and balances, it's an aberration." #SoxFest 2 hours ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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