Chicago White Sox Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) Very true. I am extremely disappointed the Sox couldn't or wouldn't go to this level. I still think they have another move they will make, but if they don't, and Avi fails, they deserve all the grief they are going to get. Agree with all the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 11:43 PM) I've said this in a few threads, but if they keep Avi and LaRoche as starters and the team tanks again, I see no reason for Hahn and Ventura to keep their jobs. ref the bold, not unless he is doing and following the directive of the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 With Eaton's shoulder not being close to 100 percent in terms of throwing, Austin Jackson becomes a more important target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Everything's fine. Why upgrade one of the worst defensive OFs in baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 12:49 AM) Everything's fine. Why upgrade one of the worst defensive OFs in baseball? Maybe Avi will try a more upright stance on defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) Maybe Avi will try a more upright stance on defense Let's just play Melky and Eaton out there instead. Let's try some weird 2 man OF defense. Edited February 23, 2016 by Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 12:52 AM) Let's just play Melky and Eaton out there instead. Let's try some weird 2 man OF defense. Eaton might need a cutoff man to throw to second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 11:51 PM) Maybe Avi will try a more upright stance on defense i am sorry, but that is one hell of a funny line. bravo. notworthy.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 06:49 PM) Everything's fine. Why upgrade one of the worst defensive OFs in baseball? "One of the worst"? Is there a worse defensive OF in all of baseball all the way around than our's right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 06:45 PM) "One of the worst"? Is there a worse defensive OF in all of baseball all the way around than our's right now? 4th worst rated OF defense last season: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein Sources tell me the #WhiteSox made a "firm, serious offer" to Dexter Fowler, but he opted for more money, not budging from his demands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Sockin @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein Sources tell me the #WhiteSox made a "firm, serious offer" to Dexter Fowler, but he opted for more money, not budging from his demands. So 3/$33 million was not budging from his demands? Great source Bernstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 09:58 AM) So 3/$33 million was not budging from his demands? Great source Bernstein. So guessing Sox were in the 2 years/$20M range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 06:49 PM) Everything's fine. Why upgrade one of the worst defensive OFs in baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Sockin @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein Sources tell me the #WhiteSox made a "firm, serious offer" to Dexter Fowler, but he opted for more money, not budging from his demands. At least it says that they are still interested in upgrading the OF though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 "Firm, serious offer" makes no indication that the offer was actually competitive. I can firmly and seriously offer someone 40% of asking price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) "Firm, serious offer" makes no indication that the offer was actually competitive. I can firmly and seriously offer someone 40% of asking price. They established a price that they were willing to pay along with the forfeiture of a top 30 draft pick. Baltimore offered more. He went to Baltimore. You are entitled to think that the Sox made a mistake. I disagree with that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) Jesse SanchezVerified account @JesseSanchezMLB 8m8 minutes ago There were 25 clubs in attendance at showcase for Cuban players Yadiel Hernandez, Yanio Perez & Alejandro Rivero in Mexico City today. There's no way the Sox were one of the 5 teams that didn't show up...Right?....Right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) So guessing Sox were in the 2 years/$20M range. The Sox 0-4 now this offseason waiting for the market for free agent outfielders to fall to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year. Not necessarily. There are always trades and the DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year. While I agree that they were only going to break the bank for Gordon or Cespedes, I don't think commitments to Eaton and Melky really hindered going after somebody else. Remember our DH spot is opening up after this year and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Melky move there for the 2017 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year. I just think that they don't think Fowler is that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) I just think that they don't think Fowler is that good. Then they should have spent more money on one of the better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) Then they should have spent more money on one of the better players. ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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