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I mentioned in another thread that I'm pretty skeptical of a model of that ilk, just because of the diversity of body types in sports. When I was younger and going through trainings, the sentiment at that time was that bulking up would hurt flexibility and limit range so heavy lifting and weight gains would hamper you defensively. Obviously I think some of that was wrong with modern training, but I'm still generally skeptical of a guy gaining athleticism by putting on weight. Maintaining seems possible though. I was surprised to read that they thought if he lost weight, he'd lose athleticism too. I think, in general, those statements are too blanketed and there's probably more to it but if you put on lean muscle mass and shed bulk and some fat, typically your flexibility and the likes increases which improves your athleticism. Obviously all that nuance couldn't be detailed out in 1 paragraph of an article though!

You liked a post in this thread that called the GM (Getz) an idiot and over matched. If you want to try and rewrite history though, go for it!

If he's talking Schriffdog ain't, so that's a win in my book.

Advice for Plesac: Shut up once in a while.

He liked Getz too much. Luckily I avoided a suspension for that crime. Although I was more along the lines of give the guy a chance at first because I wasn't sure he was part of the problem just because he worked there. Guilt by association didn't fly with me nor did any perceived job performance since we had no idea as fans how many real contributions to the suckage he made. As he went on I thought he was hiring the right personnel and saw a real effort to improve the foundation and wasn't too concerned about how 2024 went. Rock bottom sometimes has to happen . I don't think he contributed all that much to that wreckage . That was more a product of the previous regime and he had nothing to work with that year and used what little budget he had on the underbelly of the foundation. I haven't reread if I said very much in this thread, probably that the return seemed light like St. Louis should've contributed something to the Sox.

The body transformation is mostly responsible, agree. He worked hard and it paid off. It was interesting seeing the Sox talking about their projected weigh gain for Roch and how it would affect his performance. Not everybody can put on muscle and remain great at a skill based sport, so trying to at least model it a bit is important.

Dan Plesac will be back in the booth for the road trip

I think its like 80% credit to Vargas and 20% to the staff giving him a long leash. His biggest change was putting on muscle and swinging harder. Not saying they've made no swing adjustments, but generally I think this is mostly vargas. Team deserves some credit for identifying a player with that will to improve though

90% of what I watch is sports. The remaining 10% is torrented. I'm not a big TV or Film guy, not really my thing. Rather play some OOTP or Football Manager to kill a few hours.

I mean, he's been no where near as good as Yordan or Witt.

I don't know how into TV shows you are, but they currently make the best quality shows on AppleTV and it's not even close. They've lapped HBO several times currently. So much good s%*# on AppleTV.

Helpful info but not a chance in hell I'm signing up for another streaming service to watch Ted Lasso and a couple WS games. I'll be watching via other means. No pause or DVR like MLB.tv but free and with zero chance I forget to cancel a sub next month. Go Sox. Interesting the way they decided to order the SP. I'd have come out guns blazing with Burke, but so far most things they've done have turned out well, we'll see how Kay does tonight.

Three factoids today: July 17, 1959 - It was a pitcher’s duel for the ages and one of the key games in the 1959 season. The Sox were in New York and before over 42,000 fans, Ralph Terry and Early Wynn hooked up in a classic. After eight innings Terry had no-hit the Sox...Wynn allowed the Yankees one hit, that an infield single in the sixth inning to his mound opponent. In the top of the ninth Jim McAnany broke up the no-hitter with a single to center leading off the inning. The Sox would eventually score two runs thanks to Jim Landis’ bases loaded hit. Wynn closed down New York in the last of the frame and the Sox had a 2-0 win. It was Landis who also had the defensive play of the game, maybe of the regular season, when he robbed Mickey Mantle of an inside-the-park home run with a sensational catch out by the monuments in center field 460 feet away from home plate in the fourth inning. July 17, 1989 - In a game at Comiskey Park against the Yankees, Carlton Fisk notched his 2,000th career hit. It came in the first inning on a single to center off of former teammate Dave LaPoint. He’d have three for the evening in the Sox 7-3 win along with an RBI and a run scored. At the time he was the 173rd player ever to reach the 2,000 hits mark. July 17, 2022 – He came over from the Cubs in the Jose Quintana deal and it was showing to be one of the best trades made by the Sox in recent memory. Pitcher Dylan Cease was dominant against the Twins in the last game before the All-Star break going seven innings, allowing one hit and striking out eight in the 11-0 win. With the eight strikeouts he passed Chris Sale as the fastest White Sox pitcher ever to record 500 of them. He did it just short of 400 innings of work. Sale’s record was recorded in a little over 472 innings pitched. Cease and two relief pitchers only allowed Minnesota that one hit, a single by Alex Kirilloff in the fifth inning.

If you haven't used it before, you can get a 7 day free trial for Apple TV when you sign up at https://tv.apple.com/ There is also a "hidden" 30 day free trial option as well (Said I wasn't qualified but worth checking)- https://redeem.services.apple/roktappletv-amr-v2 If you have already used the trial you will have to pay $12.99 for a month. (Unless you are one of the pop up-malware stream enjoyers) Apple TV has a lot of good s%*# that will keep you occupied for a month after tonight's game. I recommend Silo (Sci-Fi/Dystopian), Severance (Thriller/Mystery), Ted Lasso (Soccer Comedy/Drama and new season Aug 5th)

He's a solid 26th man. He'd be an awful regular in CF or at SS. On good teams guys can slot into roles, thankfully we have one this year.

Fun to read the posts from a couple of years ago that didn't age very well. As they say, hindsight is 20/20. I hope in a few years, we can similarly bump the Gonzalez trade and Draft threads and have a good laugh at the posts crapping on what the Sox did with this year's draft.

He was also so bad to start the year that regression had to pull him closer to the player he was last season eventually. And that's basically what he is now.

Where’s Grady? Just curious

Not sure where to put this. It might be in another thread.

2019

In 2020, there were only five rounds. How Cade Smith ended up going as an udfa to the Guardians. Somehow the players that belong in the big leagues always find a way.

Very cool for him, and also can't hurt the Sox' growing profile in Japan.

Correct. 5 in addition to the largest bonus ever. It's 6 total.