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There is a good chance it will heal and not need surgery if after the 6-8 weeks it tightens up. If it heals up enough then it will be strong enough. He could always injure it again but it won't be because of it being weaker.

Wow nice get for under the caps even. If you add that to the $63,300 we were under before that pick, that puts us at $140,000 under the slot caps. So if you pick up and lose no money and get Madrigal, Walker and Martin signed all at slot value, here is what the Sox can do. They automatically get no penalties for the first $125,000 of signing bonus. They can add to that the $140,000 they have in savings so far, also without seeing a penalty for a total of $265,000. Above that total, the Sox can go 5% over their total bonus pool of $10,589,900 and pay only an overage penalty, but lose no draft picks. That number is $529,485. The Sox could add that to the $265,000 and offer one guy like Bryce Bush, Alec Valenzuela, Adrian Del Castro, or Mason Montgomery (who were all late high school picks) up to $794,495 without losing a draft pick.

At least she can afford all the houses he's lost

Chuck = Yeager and Norris, Charlie = Brown. Chuck it is !

I thought someone pissed in your Cherrios to start the game. I now think u smoked a fatty and are much cheerier.

@greg775 ????

Guess who’s back? Back again

When you ignore that players are human beings that will have struggles then you must be a robot. I get you’re a numbers guy, but you have to consider all qualitative information as well or you will come to bad conclusions. I mean, would you even be having this same argument a month ago when his key numbers were all perfectly in-line with his 2017 stats? Never overreact to a player coming too big of a high or low and that’s exactly what you are doing right now.

Below are Jose’s stats for April/May of 2018, FY 2017, & his career averages: BB %: 6.6% / 5.2% / 6.4% K %: 18.0% / 17.6% / 19.3% BABIP: .331 / .330 / .332 ISO: .224 / .248 / .221 OPS: .882 / .906 / .873 wRC+: 140 / 138 / 136 Which stats suggest an unsustainable hot streak or a sudden aging? His BABIP good luck in May simply offset his bad luck in April. Again, I really think you’re reaching here. Jose looked really damn good those first couple months.

Dude put up a wRC+ of 140 in the first two months of the season (normally when he’s cold) and looked the part. Now he’s suddenly on an age trajectory because of one bad month? I’m convinced you’re a robot that doesn’t understand players have bad stretches and oftentimes will start pressing. I’m guessing being the one legit hitter in the lineup on a struggling team isn’t helping matters. Regardless, I don’t know why you keep bringing up 2016 as if that was somehow the beginning of a downward spiral. It was well documented that he was dealing with personal issues and completely rebounded in 2017, so your theory is pretty off there.

What a hero

lol...yes, because front offices overreact to slumps as much as the common fan. Teams will pay for Abreu based on what they project out of him in the 2H of 2018 & 2019 and if they believe they’ll get a comp pick for him when he leaves. They’ll certaintly use the slump as leverage in negotiations, but that doesn’t change his actual value. For a guy who seems to understand baseball, your hatred for Jose Abreu is quite bizarre.

I've never hated James Shields, just how he pitched up until this year for us

As long as you never, ever, ever say again that "Maybe this guy not named Frank Thomas had the best hitting stretch in White Sox history" we will have accomplished something today. (Shoeless joe was also better).

If you have to use Hall of Famers to find better hitters than a hitter you're speaking about, you're probably speaking about a very good hitter.

Steady work is important and especially in this economy.

People look down upon the profession... It's steady work, at least.

God I am a fool tonight

Oh damn, Bazinga!!!

When I was in rehab "normal" was a game of checkers with a meth head in the day room. I don't know what Miguel's itinerary is, though.

More like Megan Trainor. No.

James Shields is an American hero

PTATC, could you take a look at these numbers and let us know what's going on? Is this better than Abreu?

Isn't 200ft a bit deep?

Big Game James just being gritty

This is what you get when someone gets the second most votes in an election; clearly they should be the arbiters of law and the Constitution in our country. You see, those people in Wyoming, they're real Americans. Moreso than any of you in Chicago.

I think he's more Jose's Stan, personally.

Is @greg775the real slim shady?

Morneau interviewing to be on Sox coaching staff?

Beautiful swings by Timmy tonight!

Very off-balanced at the plate, as his body is coming forward too much before point of contact. Causing lower bat speed and harder time with breaking pitches. Not overly worried, we've seen this before and then he goes on a terror.

Anyone else think that Tilson should be the leadoff hitter when he plays?

Sign that Big Game James to an extension

The textbook definition is mild sprain about 25% tear, moderate sprain 25%to 75%, severe 75%+. After 6-8 weeks they will re-evaluate to see if he needs surgery based on how loose it is.

You should trust the opinion of arguably the best medical staff in MLB. @ptatc knows his shit but last time I checked he hasn't personally evaluated Dunning's elbow and consulted with the Sox' medical team on a course of action.

You also have to consider his father made close to $100M so he's set for life. That extra bonus isn't his main priority. Reasons for signing with the Sox could be they could guarantee him lots of playing time, given that we were didn't have any high profile signings, or that the new developmental staff we have put in place to help him develop, or that Omar Vizquel has helped pitch the Sox to Tejada himself.

Progressive isn't needed anymore? We're on the verge of a fascist ruling class with income and wealth inequality worse than the gilded age, so named for how ridiculous income and wealth inequality was at the time, and you think progressives aren't needed? Progressives are needed now more than ever. The only path out of this death spiral the country is in is progressive policy.

I'm not getting in the Hillary stuff anymore. People need to get over that. On the other hand people better start getting mad. Stop letting people tell you that it's wrong to get angry.

Lol...what? 36% above league average is good not great? There are literally 24 qualified hitters in baseball above that threshold right now. Whatever dude, I’m not wasting any more time on this. I think you are completely off-base here if you think his 2016 season is reflective of anything.

What? One month ago it didn’t look like an exception at all. You really need to pull his rookie season out of the equation as his droppoff the following year was due to the league adjusting to him, not some sort of aging curve. Other than the season he was dealing with personal issues and a bad June of this year, he’s been consistently in the 130 to 140 range for wRC+. You are really reaching here to create this aging curve narrative. Are you actually suggesting he just suddenly lost all his ability in June? If not, what elements of his production in April & May were outliers?

Between fathom’s unwavering negativity & Parkman’s hot takes, I figured Lopez must of given up about 10 runs or so with 0 K’s. Then I check the box score and see he had a respectable start. And I get the box score doesn’t tell the whole story, but my god these game threads are brutal, way worse than usual IMO. It’s really apparent some people can’t deal with the highs & lows that come with developing young talent.

It is a Hawk era term, even.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/federal-court-order-family-separations/index.html Judge orders parents reunited with their children.

Maybe just the Sox actually winning means nothing when people rather root for losses I suppose.

He's 54th in fWAR among qualified pitchers and is 24, relax. It would be nice if his 1B could field as well as his RF.

Rutherford and Luis Gonzalez need to be playing every day. That Remillard guy doesn't need all this playing time.

This is surprising. Ron must be working day and night casting votes to make sure Abreu stays #1. Somebody get Ron a red bull, he's earned it... so far.

Lopez has no prayer unfortunately

Him and ReyLo deserve the nods.