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This is just laughable and you continue to say it. If you dont get a guy who is arguably the greatest right handed hitter of all time, it's not worth it. So apparently if you get Pete Alonso (who Vaughn is much better than so far) it would be a bust.

I'm going to bed tonight praying that Rutschman falls to the Sox.

Gios recent success is due in part to his HS coach, not Cooper

Ron's bashing Abreu again. Everyone, time to add him back to your fantasy teams. Hot streak here we come!

Fun game. Jonah Keri is on board too.

gtfo

Maybe McCann should catch Eloy's next start.

Maybe the real draft pick is the group of friends we've made along the way

What is percentage of being able to make a deal with Houston for Yordan Alvarez before tomorrow’s draft? Then we can eliminate Vaughn from the discussion at #3 for good.

This is just as silly as your theory Robert should have been left in A ball for the rest of the year because he had a 23% K rate. Have you learned anything about prospect development since then? I thought it would have been shocking for you that Robert is succeeding at AA and lowered his K rate at the same time? Many prospects around the league have succeeded since Beckham when given an aggressive assignment. What happened to Beckham has absolutely nothing to do with Robert. Aggressive assignments rarely ruin prospects, prospects get exposed because they lack talent and that is something you could spend years in minor and still have the same issue at the highest level.

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I mean, by this philosophy - you should only be concerned with winning if you think you have a shot at the world series. "What's the point of winning the division? We're going to lose right away in the playoffs." Look, I get that this is a rebuild. However, you can't just lose 95 games every season up until your "pre-determined contending" season and be under the impression that "Welp! Suddenly we're going to be great now because it's 2020! Remember how everyone promised we'd be good in 2020? Well, here we are!". It's not just going to happen overnight. You need to see signs of growth from the team. Seeing them find ways to win is a big part of that. The rotation has been quite poor, but Cease is on his way up and Kuechel (or other outside help) is an option. Eloy and the young players should only get better. If I believed this team was as good as it was going to get in 2019. Sure, I would agree that we're going to hit some mega rough patch at some point. However, there's real concrete reasons for cautious/realistic optimism here. Wishing for .500 and some competitive baseball isn't asking for the world. I'm not one of these guys who actually thinks we're going to be in a serious wild card hunt come September. However, to suggest that we should still (one year before we all think we're going to be a serious contender) be disregarding winning/losing entirely is just silly... That mentality has to end at some point.

Abreu's on pace for well over 100 RBI and people are shitting on him. Is that stat advanced enough for you?

The assumption is yes. Jimmy also expressed this sentiment I believe.

Robert single. Now 2-5 on the night, raising his average to .327

Being at the game today, you can feel the belief starting to seep in again. Fans were into it. More Sox gear being worn, specifically gear of current players rather than ones of the past. This is about to get fun. Buckle up

No, it doesnt start with me. We dont need pages of arguments over whose epeen is bigger. The thread is about Cease and its tiring to have to skip over comment after comment of off topic bullshit.

I think I would normally prefer Vaughn. But based of his scouting of Lucas Gioito, take whoever Parkman wants.

@TheTruth05 @Eloy Jiménez cheers guys

A homestand is when they play a few series in their home ballpark. Thus the past week was a Sox homestand

Giolito, McCann, TA, Colome and Bummer. Fantastic.

@ron883

He has been dealt a terrible hand as an announcer. He is one of the best in the league.

Jose Abreu last 30 games. .200/.221/.478 I don't know where the calls for an extension are coming from recently.

Found the account of Juan Minaya's wife

Tim Anderson 2. Cleveland Indians 0.

It's not just him. A lot of these guys are like that. I swear if you were able to take a brain scan of some of these guys at the plate, you would get "crickets". No awareness of count advantage , game situation, what's working/not working for the pitcher, etc. It's " see ball, try to hit ball".

Which would make Lopez and Rodon (when he returns) the best #4 and #5 starters in the AL which means they could win a ton of games.

Eloy is so bad right now, love how our cant miss prospects always struggle horribly how has his hit tool degraded so drastically

Hopefully that body snatcher can do the same for Lopez soon

I am still not conviced that this is the real Lucas Giolito and not a Body Snatcher. ?

Drafting Baty would absolutely lead to the most interesting draft as a whole. Imagine the depth you could add to your system with the potential savings on Baty. Baty is ranked around 15th to 17th for most publications. If you napkin math 15th slot compared to the 3rd slot value, you are saving roughly 3.3 million you can play with later. They could do a lot of damage with that money. Insulating a top heavy system would be very nice. Also there is plenty of risk there. Especially with AZ lurking with all those picks in the early going. I think I'm in favor of grabbing Vaughn still, but for sheer entertainment value I'd have fun seeing what they do after Baty.

You made a baseball-focused comment that wasn’t incessantly positive about a team that hasn’t been to the playoffs in a decade. How dare you.

I am a fan of alliteration but there's something a bit off in that title.

I can see the qualms: undersized RH hitter who can only play 1st or DH has its attendant risks as a top 5 pick. Ideally, I'd like to see the Sox draft someone like Bishop, sign him for under slot, and use the savings to get premium prep in rounds 2-5 and/or thereafter. I doubt they'd do that, so Abrams (preferred) or Vaughn would be fine. No Bleday.

So if Vaughn’s FLOOR isn’t a franchise player who had some of the best production at the plate for this team... then pass. But... you also won’t be disappointed with him as the pick. You’re on the fence in delusion land.

Yeah, we get it. You don't want Vaughn.

This post has been edited by the Soxtalk staff to remove objectionable material. Soxtalk encourages a free discussion between its members, but does not allow personal attacks, threats, graphic sexual material, nudity, or any other materials judged offensive by the Administrators and Moderators. Thank you. Your over reaction was way worse in the common decency department than his post. Why? Because I used bad words? If a stranger just randomly talked to you like that in real life, the proper response would be to tell them to "f themselves". There's nothing inappropriate about that response. I told him to "F off". I didn't look up his address, drive over and slap his mother. I'm sure he's a lovely guy. I have nothing against him. He said something kind of shitty. I said something back. It's over Moving on...

I'm not even saying don't pick him, I'm saying you better be damn sure his floor is Paul Konerko if you do. I wouldn't even be disappointed if they take Vaughn. I'd understand why they did it, however I wish they'd avoid him. If Abrams is slipping, I'd rather them take Bleday or Greene.

Oh, the irony. You’re still wrong though.

What’s harder? Hitting in the Bham pitcher’s park against AA pitching or at Charlotte’s hitter’s park with the juice ball against AAA/AAAA pitching, or your boner when Robert is called up?

Let me add that if the white Sox offense continues to progress, and Robert is a star and madrigal is a fine at 2nd then this team was better off spending money on pitching than hitting anyway - time will tell if they do that though.

Hilarious is spending more money than Machado is making this year on the likes of Alonso, Nova, Herrera, and Jay. Three guys you don’t want to see playing for the Sox and one guy who is getting paid $4 million to not play for them.

It‘s not like the Sox had an easy time getting production from the DH spot in the last decade. ?‍♂️

No, they didn’t. Enough of this BS. It isn’t true. $250 million guaranteed with incentives is not as good as $300 million guaranteed. Machado didn’t “want to go to San Diego.” He went to the team that offered him the most guaranteed money, plain and simple.

To be fair, the White Sox game the best financial offer to Machado. It had nothing to do with being cheap. He wanted to go to San Diego.

Yes there is.

I would say that 500 now is a great sign when we have Kopech, Cease and cash for another solid starter available. Likely huge upgrades to the pitching coming soon.

This team might finish THIRTY games below? Simply because we don't have every single, solitary hole filled with an ideal piece to contend with? Come on... We're not a winning roster, but we ARE absolutely a competitive one. No one looks at the White Sox on the schedule at this point and goes "there's three games that we can just show up for". Look around at the other teams with our record. They have the same kind of problems that we do. 26-29 is just about right. This is not a 66-96 team.