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Yeah i know how dare someone have a different opinion than ray. Smh. I agree with you by the way . Just saying.

IMO, there are even bigger failures by the White House than the messaging failure. While that is important, no failure was more important for this country than the CDC failure in January and February. They refused testing assistance from the WHO, designed and shipped out a faulty and useless test, blocked private labs or institutions from conducting tests, and then created testing standards that made it impossible to test people for community spread. It was the fault of the CDC more than anyone else that the states were flying blind throughout February as the Virus took hold. By the time the first positive test came back in New York City, there were probably 10,000 people who already had it, and they were starting new chains in Boston, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Detroit, and Chicago, and those chains would feed the next set of outbreaks in the US. Notably, the CDC is part of the executive branch, run under the White House. The CDC director, Chosen and nominated by the President, Redfield, is historically problematic, having pushed a so-called AIDS vaccine without evidence and who has worked with an abstinence-only education group. One senator in 2018 described him as " a sloppy scientist with a long history of scientific misconduct and an extreme religious agenda" which is the kind of thing that at the time might not have seemed like a big deal but then when the CDC became the most important organization in the country for a month...its performance mattered a lot. The CDC was key to fighting 2 outbreaks during the Obama administration, Swine Flu and Ebola, and while it is possible to make some mistakes and learn from them every time, it is clear the CDC was completely broken when we needed them and tens of thousands of Americans are dead specifically because of that failure. This should be at the heart of whatever investigation is conducted after this is over. Also along those lines, the administration allowed the FDA in March to begin approving all sorts of junk tests including specifically junk antibody tests that did not actually have any power to verify anything. Furthermore, the administration was also sloppy with supplies. Elizabeth Warren had her plan for COVID response out on January 27th, calling for, among other things, increased production of PPE. That did not happen - in part because the White House had spent several years trying to privatize the effort. There needed to be early training of first responders for how to deal with infected patients. Didn't happen. There needed to be surge funding available to be working on these things in February. Didn't happen. On top of all of that, consistent leadership from the top, supported by scientists, is also key to beating this, and the administration has been missing in action. For one example In South Korea, to reopen things, they developed a nationwide app system where people could log in, to aid in tracing. IF we wanted restaurants open right now, having people log in on an app as they enter the building is a way to make sure that if there is an infected individual recorded there, you can find all the other people who were potentially exposed and get them tested and isolated to break transmission chains. Amarillo Texas is not going to build its own app to do this. If there was a nationwide one? Everyone could use it. Does anyone know what we really need to do to reopen schools safely? NO. Why not? There is zero organization or leadership from the top. Under what circumstances should a state shut down fully a second time, is there any leadership from the top on these standards? No. That's all in addition to the messaging failures, telling people it's a hoax and saying why they don't need to take precautions.

The white house failed us when they 'politicized' the virus calling it a democratic hoax. Because of that a lot of Trump supporters still refuse to wear a mask. Just a few months ago Jerksticks was saying it was a common cold. Probably still believes that.

These two are legit good signings.

The youngest brother is supposed to be the best of the bunch and the Sox are reportedly signing him too. It's 2022 though international draft could mess up those plans potentially.

I don't know where else to put this, so I'm going to put this here... I like Nick Madrigal and I think that he'll help the Sox win a lot of games while they're on this run but I think he was a terrible pick at #4. In my opinion, when you're drafting in the top five I feel like you're supposed to walk away with a game-changing, potential franchise player, and that's not Nick Madrigal.

Just watched fireworks in a car with my kids because adults cant be responsible because of the "bossy govt." Maybe when they are older they'll purposefully fail a test because the teacher was bossy about studying and doing their homework. What a damn snowflake society weve become when we self sabotage because our poor feelings were hurt when someone was trying to save people from themselves. Happy 4th of July to every self entered bastard who couldn't make the smallest sacrifice asked of any generation in US history.

I haven't seen much of due to athletes being very wary. It is used as a drug to wean people off of opiates. It does give an opiate like effect and is highly addictive like opiates. The current trend is to stay away from opiates and similar drugs. There isn't much research on it but most say it's not advisable because it is mostly a symptom mask and the addictive quality. Again I cant say I have much experience with it though just what I've read.

Luis Robert impresses during BP. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/luis-robert-crushes-baseballs-white-sox-summer-camp-batting-practice Keuchel says " I think we might wreak a little havoc in the AL Central." Keuchel's Mom says : "Playoffs or die, b-----s!" https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/dallas-keuchel-suggests-white-sox-can-wreak-little-havoc-al-central

Carlos Rodon is feeling good ! https://www.si.com/mlb/whitesox/news/brand-new-arm-same-old-snarl-carlos-rodón-is-back Lets get this thread alive . I want to see all the baseball related stuff from camp here. Sim games should be starting very soon . https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/carlos-rodon-has-something-prove-it-feels-im-kind-brand-new

Jack, my Uncle - who is 68 years old - doesn't even know how to use the internet without signing into the old AOL software.; His amazon password had to be changed and he couldn't do it because he doesn't know how to open to web pages at once. He barely knows how to use a computer at all. People my grandmas age still use CHECKS at the grocery store. She can't see a computer screen because her vision is so bad. She has no idea how to order groceries and she lives in a moral rural area. Your resolutions just ignore countless people and the reality they live in.

Illinois is the 5th most populated state in the U.S. with a major international airport that I’m sure isn’t helping matters. Also, in terms of total cases Illinois is actually the 7th highest and only the 12th highest over the last 7th days. Relative to their population size, the data says Illinois is doing a pretty good job. And I just spent a week in the Chicago suburbs and it’s night & day how how much more seriously this is being taken than in Nashville and other southern areas I’ve been to recently.

Love to hear the thoughts from an expert - so not me - on HIPAA because I'm not sure why HIPAA protects players privacy for COVID but not injuries. In addition, I think raising awareness is important and total transparency by the league and everyone involved should be the norm. They obviously have rights and they have a right to privacy, I just think it makes no sense from a public safety/transparency standpoint.

But did Kopech ever show up for an intake exam? He may very well have COVID, but it seems like his absence was called out before the team reported these two initial positives.

So Kopech is mysteriously missing for a personal issue they won't discuss and 2 White Sox players have tested positive but both have requested privacy? Kopech's missing because he tested positive. That's it. When they say he's healthy they're just either lying or using some legalistic language loophole. Yordan Alvarez is getting the same treatment for Houston.

His barber is out there

Don’t forget when he refused to wear a mask at the swab plant, they had to toss out all the swabs made that day.

Got to get him ready for the season!

It is nice to know Ricky had Eloy working on his bunting yesterday.

The fact he’s three years younger, is already a higher regarded prospect, and has a legit super-star type ceiling. I really like Madrigal and he gives us a skillset we really need, but Kelenic has a chance to be the guy we all look back on in that draft and wonder why we passed on him.

He's talking about Kelenic

If the federal government handled this about as well as they could like Jerksticks seems to imply, why are not other countries having these spikes? Why are the states with the biggest outbreaks the ones that broke with the scientists and sided with Trump? Probably just a huge coincidence., and bad luck. Why are cases exploding in TX, AZ and Fl, three of the hottest states, when the warmer weather would make it just go away? Trump is holding rallies and parties, NOW, with no social distancing, and even though he claims 99% of the infections are harmless, to get anywhere near him, guess what, you need a negative test. More BS from perhaps the most documented liar who has ever lived.

How did the White House specifically fail us?

The youngest brother is supposedly the best of the bunch. He’s rumored to the White Sox as well but an international draft could put a wrench in those plans.

Man this is rich coming from you; soxtalks king of disinformation pertaining to covid.

Amen. To me, the BIGGEST part of respecting science is respecting the process of science. Especially in times of desperation, I understand that we all want to know what’s going on, what the science says. But it’s in times of desperation that it’s critical to not use data to jump to conclusions and call that “the science”. Data is a piece of information. It is nothing more. That chart a person links to isn’t “the science”, it’s just some data on a chart that may suggest something. We all need to be more careful about conclusions, because there aren’t many to be drawn yet except that really really old people are getting slaughtered and some young people are getting hurt too.

Yeah, a lot of Americans are weak and trivial. You hear the childish and weak "You're not the boss of me" complaints over and over. Other, smarter nations listen to experts and put the masks on, and they've beaten back the virus. Their reward? They get their sports and their restaurants and other things people like back sooner. And then there's this whole politicization of science, where some mouthbreathing monkey morons from the right think that rhetoric can defeat a virus, or that global warming is a fukcing hoax. In sum? We have a nation with lot of mentally weak freedom freeloaders who never served their nation, being led by an imbecile who is weak and childish. As a veteran, I think we really need a fvkcing draft. This nation's response to COVID would be as if: 1. You took George Steinbrenner's budget for an MLB team, then 2.Hired Terry Bevington and Robin Ventura to manage and coach the team, then 3. Stupidly wonder why that team only wins 68 games.

Any ideas as to why kopech isnt at camp?

I'm a big kratom fan, not going to lie. It's one of my favorite things to use as a preworkout. It never gives me much of an "energy" boost like caffeine or amphetamines, but it does give me a mental boost, and definitely increases my endurance. I know a lot of people get energy boosts from it though. It also feels similar to a Vicodin at slightly higher doses. I'm sure there are sports players who is it for pain relief. @ptatc, have you heard much about kratom or known of any athletes using it? It's currently legal.

Bernstein.

I'd agree with you there, but we've lost the credibility to point out human rights violations in other countries. The US used to have credibility internationally(albeit while waging pointless wars) More than anything else the pandemic has exposed the US as a fraud. All of these things have existed for 35 years at least....institutional racism never left.

We are a heartless and soulless society. We couldn't care less if people are homeless in the middle of a pandemic. We force essential workers to interact with hundreds of people per week unnecessarily, while working for peanuts. Our government thinks it's better to force people off of UEI when the jobs they had aren't coming back. They bail out businesses instead of people. How ethically bankrupt can we be?

He still tweeted it and ran the story. Regardless, this is the last thing baseball needs right now.

I hate Bernstein's reporting. "Uh yeah we just heard from someone that Yasmani Grandal took steroids 8 years ago and was suspended for it. Let's bring this into light right before the season starts." If he was suspended for it, people already know about it. The only point in making this news is to stir up drama. GTFO Dan.

Just so you know I won;t be shoving it in anyone's face. I will be happy if he succeeds and disappointed if he doesn't which in most scenarios is the more likely outcome. Personally I saw no need for EE but i understood his signing because he is a well established bat and Yermin and Collins are not. In a year the Sox planned to compete that was most important rather then Collins, Yermin and others sharing the DH spot.

Only you can turn something good into something stupid . Bossards kid isn't going to take the spot of a better player away. Get real . Didn't you say "he couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie". If your assessment of his talent is correct how is it possible to take a better players spot ? There is open competition on the field. He signed for a measly amount . Do you think his talent or whatever he signed for will cost the Sox some future superstar who couldve been signed for $20K if it wasnt for the Sox signing Bossard ? Jerry does something magnanimous and you turn it into a fight like most of us argued about signing Abreu costing the Sox talent down the road.. I am not the stupid one here . If you reply I am done regardless It's such an insignificant thing arguing about some gesture of goodwill costing the Sox any talent. It just won't because it's a pittance and if he is as talentless as you say he won't cost anyone spot in open competition either. Can you even imagine yourself saying a few years from now if any of these 20K signees turns into a quality major league player "see f it wasn't for the Sox signing Bossard the Sox could've had that guy" . I don't think so.