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Then why do we want to trade this great 3 WAR ceiling player for Yoshida?

Canario looks like a better package than anything the Sox have in AAAA outfielders. I wonder if Chris Getz is on the phone. Alexander Canario Minor & Winter Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com

I believe Benintendi is saying now that in July, he had settled on some mechanical changes, and it all started to click.

Baseball teams aren't crunching web browsing data from entire populations. Maybe don't get caught up in the semantics of a pun by the article author? Teams crunch data on EVs and barrels based on pitch types and zones, etc. All teams do have their own proprietary models for what they're looking for, and yes, sometimes, they can be wrong. There seemed to be some dramatic disagreement last year between Pedro Grifol and the stats department on defensive positioning, for example. That was probably more on Grifol being a dimwit.

I'm not the best person to explain any of this. I would think that any player interested in becoming a better player has more than a passing acquaintance with pitching labs and heat maps. Nobody has to worry about Chris Getz carrying the 3. Data's run, and it's in a readable format. Just like any job. If you're going to advance beyond carrying things and stacking them somewhere, you have to know how to create and use spread sheets, presentation programs, converting a picture to a PDF, etc.

James Fegan comments in today's article: No paywall. Camp notes. The White Sox could be set up to fill the needs of others

Paul Janish Ponders the Promise of a Rejuvenated White Sox Prospect Pipeline | FanGraphs Baseball

If the Mets are only one spot ahead of the White Sox, and the Phillies only 2 spots, I have no idea what they're measuring.

And bumble bees can't fly.

I wouldn't even call it lazy. Jordan and Kobe were insane with the way they prepped and worked on their games. They'd see something be exposed, then kill it in the off-season. With these guys getting injured, somebody here wrote or posted something about how there's advanced research on the pairings of muscles, and how some people's left side snaps back slower than their right, or something. That can be studied, and both sides can be worked differently to pair with each other, and reduce injury risk. That's the kind of thing that you'd think these guys would hire their own guys to discover and fix. The team only has so much control over these guys. And if there was so much dysfunction before Getz, Eloy, Yoan and Robert should have taken it into their own hands and ran with it.

Bregman would have moved to 2B. And isn't Nico Hoerner returning from injury? Good problems to have.

And here's a link to the article being referenced. There's a paywall, but you can sign up for like, $2 a month and get access. It's definitely worth it. White Sox seek a more perfect union

I think Getz had a lot to do with those guys' development. Moncada and Robert are/were great players. Eloy came to the majors with great promise and fulfilled some of it. He's a clown who gets himself injured. We seem to be pretending that there's some developmental strategy that mind-washes guys into becoming motivational robots. The dysfunction across levels and departments has recently been well documented.

And if Bregman's good, he's gone after the year. I guess I'm saying they should have gone all in on Bregman for that deal (if that's how Boras was guiding them) and then lean into more rookies for 2026.

James Fegan gets more under the hood about his reporting and Brian Bannister's recent interview discussing extending pitchers.

Podcast: White Sox Big Data Problem

I agree with and understand all of this. Brian Bannister just gave an interview where he talks about this on the pitching side (and SoxMachine addresses in their podcast, today). Strikeouts cost money. So, if it's going to be problematic to keep and extend the K monsters, they have to establish and maintain a steady stream of a few guys a year on the pitching side, pitching away from contact, etc. On the hitting side, sure, you might get a guy like Colson Montgomery who get comfortable in a winning situation, and will give a hometown discount, or a hometown right of first refusal.

Closer to the end of arbitration means a player with 4-5+ years service time. If somebody has shown "little" after 5 years in the majors, why would they be signing them to extensions? The anti-Getz crowd goes through such great pains to craft each phrase of each sentence in as negative a light as possible that they no longer make sense. My take from the article is that they're not going to sign an extension before the 2nd year starts to get them cheap, because they may question how that affected the motivation of their last class of "stars". To me, it's non-information. "We're going to wait to make sure they're major leaguers before extending them." Well, duh.

It was a weak draft. If they coaxed a live arm into taking 2nd round money (a la Payton Pallette and Grant Taylor) in order to get 1st round value in the 2nd round, that's a good strategy.

WTF is wrong with you? You're comparing an incomplete trade rumor leak to a thorough article documenting changes juxtaposed with a very transparent acknowledgement of serious problems and shortcomings in the organization. You've even admitted that Hayes didn't have all the information when he "went to press" by clicking send on Twitter. All I've ever said about the Hayes half rumor is that you don't know the whole story to be beating everybody over the head with it multiple times a day in multiple strings. You made a meme out of WE COULDA HAD KEASCHULL!!!! You did that all by yourself. If you don't understand the difference, haranguing me isn't going to do anything for you.

Good thing you thought of all of that now so you don't waste 5 good years that could be used to worry about this stuff. LOL.

That's good. I wish Flexen well. I went to the home finale against the Angels. Flexen got a standing O when he was pulled in the 7th.

This is a Rosenthal article that excoriates JR for his micro-managing, and talks about what Getz had modernized up til September of 24. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5773947/2024/09/19/white-sox-failure-worst-season-history/ This article on SportsMockery also gathers some of the reporting from September/24 White Sox Launch Front Office Overhaul As Getz Looks to Correct Years of Missteps

I said "journalists" when I should have specifically said "bloggers" and "podcasters". But as Jimmy has shown, journalists have reported on changes the org is making. It's insulting to be asked for other articles verifying the information being reported on in the first article I posted.