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If Giolito is really 100% likely to be gone one way or another, I don't understand why Katz is still here. They should be looking for a pitching coach that can help the rest of the staff not pandering to Lucas.

If JR does sell his piece of the team it will have nothing to do with the win loss record or attendance. It will be based on how he plans to spend his final years and his family's preferences for the future. It will also be based on tax considerations. Remember that there are many owners, so it's conceivable he could leave but ownership would remain somewhat the same, just with a new managing partner.

I don't have any real hope of them being a playoff team this year but I do have hope of them at least being a competitive enjoyable team to watch the remainder of the season, which they haven't been for a while.

Do we know if TLR is getting paid this year? Technically he quit didn't he?

You have to figure a team that draws 30,000 average per game which is reasonable is bringing in over 100 million in ticket sales alone. Add parking, concession profits, etc it ends up being a load of money, probably enough to cover most of payroll. Cut that by two thirds if only 10000 buy tickets and the difference is huge. Regardless of TV money that is a lot of cash to walk away from.

He didn't know it at the time but being forced to hire TLR was the best thing to happen to Hahn. TLR averaged 87 wins per season and took all the heat off Hahn's roster moves.

He should head on down to the ticket sales office and ask what the now former season ticket holders told the reps over the offseason. I'm guessing they haven't sold a lot of packages since the season started also.

In theory regardless of the partnership agreement the managing partner has a legal obligation to act in the financial interest of the other partners. Again in theory only the other partners could attempt to sue JR if there is proof he has not done so, which could force JR to relinquish his managing partner status to another owner to avoid this action. Mark Cuban has a similar agreement with minority partners with the Mavericks and they attempted such a suit some year ago. They however got nowhere.

Friends of the Park generally automatically opposes any construction whatsoever on the lakefront regardless of purpose and regardless of what it is replacing. Don't think Bears fans had anything to do with it. It would be funny if they did though considering they will be gone in five years.

According to the Sox biggest sponsor "Jesus trusted his teammates too".

The Sox may be the only professional sports team in North America that can't figure out how to get 32,000 into a stadium in a reasonably efficient manner.

Based on the three games I have attended this year and the ones I went to last year I believe security must have been cut. They used to have a visible presence in the stands even when things were peaceful, now you never see them. They have also clearly cut down on ushers. While they don't break up fights they can at least provide the first call to security when things go bad. And yes, that was disgraceful on Saturday. No response at all. Somebody innocent is going to get seriously hurt eventually if the new Sox response is just to let everyone fight it out.

It's absolutely disgusting how long it took for any security to respond to this. This is what happens when you don't bother hiring ushers ( I know they don't get involved, but could call security) and don't have security visible in the stands during games. I've been to a lot of ballparks and Sox stadium management is absolutely at the bottom. Something tragic is going to happen. Between the inept front office, terrible stadium management and garbage marketing I am beginning to believe the Sox are trying to dump as many fans as possible so they can justify a move elsewhere as their current lease expires. There is no way an organization can accidentally hire so many incompetent individuals in key roles on accident.

The cross signifies member of the hall of fame.

If Fisk wanted to release info about his health I doubt he would choose Hawk to be the messenger.

It's a shame when people don't know when their time is done and need to be forced out Even worse when the same people then take it out on the ones who have to do the dirty work. Like Harry Caray Hawk was a very good announcer who became a caricature of himself over time. As bad as last season was I can't imagine how miserable he would have been to listen to calling it.

Based on the number of tickets available through the Sox in prime seating areas it appears their season ticket base has crashed. Confusing or not the new pricing strategy appears to be higher than last year for most seats. Not a lot of tickets on Stubhub which makes me believe advance sales are s%*# as well. Whoever decided to raise ticket prices for all seats season ticket or individual along with raising parking needs to be reassigned. They were oblivious to last season and the fan base. No way they make up the lost revenue from empty seats and associated concession and parking revenue through the higher prices. My worry is that the inevitable lousy attendance will be an excuse for the team to not add on in July if they are in the race and they will blame the fans as usual, when their lousy marketing decisions are to blame.

It was cheaper than actually doing maintenance. The unfortunate difference between Wrigley Field and Comiskey Park was that the Wrigley family took extremely good care of the park, including some major renovations during that 1960 that rebuilt the lower grandstand and fixed the sightline problems that were never fixed during the life of Comiskey Park. While the Sox were barely surviving financially during parts of the 60's and 70's maintenance was largely ignored. Obviously it would have been replaced as some point due to revenue issues, but it may have lasted longer or possibly been renovated instead of replaced if decades of maintenance hadn't been ignored and painted over.

In the pre Stubhub days ticket brokers were the main way to get good seats and they took advantage of their insider access by doubling or tripling face price. In Illinois the brokers were protected by laws making the resale of tickets without a license illegal. Not quite a monopoly for them but damn close. Online markets have made the resale process transparent and available to all which has forced the prices on good seats down dramatically on the secondary market. Not good for teams in general as the free marketplace makes having season tickets to access good seats at a reasonable price no longer necessary or even cost effective.

Thanks, my rep sounded like she was regretting her career choice the last time we spoke. Really felt sorry for her but I think she understands what is happening here didn't seem shocked I was dumping my seats.

Out of curiosity who was your rep?

The walk up total is probably closer to 0 for those games as season ticket holders dump for pennies on the dollar on resale sites. Zero reason to buy from box office for games like that.

I wish they would go back to that I recall the Cubs did the same thing with Brickhouse. I think sometimes the criticism of announcers in baseball comes from the fact that we listen to the same voices for 3 hours continuously over 150 plus games. Giving Len and DJ three middle innings on TV would break up that monotony and add a different perspective to the game.

That's what the Sox said in a recent email to season ticket holders. $30 Mon-Sat and $20 on Sunday. They were pitching buying discounted parking passes as part of season ticket plans at $18.

Not just lose their job for life status, but possibly be charged for defrauding the state government, as the money is going to pay off ISFA bonds. I'm not saying it's not possible someone shared some inside info with GR to help them win, but the stories posted here are just implausible.