greg775

Tonight's game was how our guys were supposed to hit. Seriously. Check the box score. Timmy had an MVP type game. Most everybody got a hit or two. Nobody looked outmatched. Vaughn had some nice pokes. TA is up to .250 finally.

He's actually Sox only 'starter' who has a clue. He's the team MVP this year, tying with Robert. I guess if Robert hits 40 hrs he's team MVP over Clev.

Are u serious? If they do the tank thing again they will have to move. NO FANS will support that again. Honestly if they go the tank route just to get No. 1 or 2 draft picks when they don't know who the hell to draft, I am speechless. I would be in favor of MLB completely getting rid of a couple teams, including our White Sox, if they decide to purposely reek the next 3-5 seasons while supposedly rebuilding. The only 2 guys who 'might' get us anything in tank-light trades are Robert, TA and Moncada maybe. Hope u are wrong!

I said in my post, win the lousy division then see if you can catch fire like we did doing it the non-tank way in 2005. No excuses to not win the division at least 9 of the 18 years since 05. Then in those nine years, you catch fire in one or two like Oz did and we win it all. This division reeks and Sox should be ashamed at the ineptitude as the largest city in the division and best market. Ultimately it falls on Jerry, Kenny, Hahn. Tank is a four-letter word in Sox history. Also if they were gonna let KW win the war over Ozzie they could have at least gotten some respected manager to take over for Ozzeroo. Hiring Robin after Oz was ridiculous. Renteria also was a bad hire even though he's OK in my book. And of course Tony was an unmitigated disaster even though I liked the move when it was made and Pedro is worst of all. Trainwreck organization.

You know what is probably ultimately most galling? I probably should make this its own thread. The Twins are 7 or 8 over .500 and have the division in the bag. Since 2005, the division has remained crap and the Sox can't even consistently field a team the last 18 years to regularly win division titles. The Sox out of all the teams in this worthless division should have dominated it the last 18 years. That's why I was against the stupid tank job and rebuild job that failed. Just do it the ol fashioned way, get some free agents to go with your Sale, Buehrle types and Frank Thomas types and Abreu types and fricking hang around .500 and win the damn division. Once you get in the playoffs even as a .500ish Central Division champ, you always have the chance to catch fire like the 05 postseason and win it all. Sox should be dominating that division and instead are division patsies. It's really sickening when you think about it. Minnie has a blah team this year, 7 over .500 or so and yet they run away with the division. It should be the Sox doing that folks. Disgraceful. And the team next year on paper will be worse than this year's almost certainly. Ugh. It's so disappointing. Kenny and Hahn and Jerry should be so proud of their work.

Sounds fun taking your son. I'd just treat it as a minor league game where nobody really cares who wins.

Sox almost blew that 7-1 lead. Oh well. Sox win!

I don't think i've ever seen a 1 page game thread in all my years here. Sox are officially irrelevant. Nobody cares.

Any chance the Hawks might win this year? Or are they still lousy?

That's so bad. When you try to hit a home run every pitch and it's lefty vs. lefty you are not going to have much success. These modern hitters don't believe in slashing singles the oppo way when it's lefty/lefty. They'd rather fail 90 percent of the time. Trade Sheets please. Dump him.

Fun fact: Six of Massey's 13 homers are against the Sox. That's obscene. A big batch of his RBIs too. Arguably he's a sub ,200 hitter w/out the boost from the Sox.

Vaughn with 20 hrs and 75 RBIs. Not too shabby considering he tries to hit it out every time up. I'd keep him I guess. I heard an interview with Grifol on sirius today. He was implying heavily all the bad blood has already been traded and the team would excel next year. Dunno about that. Still got TA and Moncada to get rid of in that regard I'd think. At least it seems that way. I've never seen a team mismanage a roster's pitching staff this way. I guess the Sox thought with Lynn and Gio and Kopech and Clevenger we had a stellar rotation. That did not work out. Sox couldn't find a lefty or two to throw in there. I have no idea how they are going to build a pitching staff with no money to spend. A team with this staff is not gonna win more than 52 games folks. More like 50.

I'm not a fan of Moncada but if he actually has become a good hitter I guess I'd be OK with keeping him. We don't have many big leaguers on the roster and it might be worth keeping him around. I'd love to read an article from somebody explaining plausible ways the Sox could actually be way better next year. I see no way, but maybe somebody has concrete ideas on how to fix this mess. Obviously it would involve spending money. ... First thing they NEED to do is get rid of Pedro and hire somebody with a name. That means $ however. Somebody like Dusty Baker, a guy like that. I'd even take Maddon.

It's scary to think he's the only Sox pitcher who had an MLB caliber season. Cease was OK early but really really mediocre most of the year. Sox are looking at 50-60 wins next year. 60 would be a high water mark with this roster. It's scary to realize we could be at the start of the polar opposite of a dynasty. Sox have no talent, as most all of us on here realize. No more than five players (counting pitchers and regular players) worth a flip IMO.

It's time to DFA poor Sheets by the way. Failure.

Just another acquisition that didn't work out at all. He was a failure as one of the elder White Sox. Another guy who didn't care to grasp a leadership role either.

Royals win the season series against the Sox, lol. Fourth time in five years that's happened. A 46-win team has won its first road series since May. Sell the team Jerry, we're sick of your leadership.

Massey has 13 homers — more than one vs. our Sox. Must be a thrill for him to play the Sox in GRate Field again. There's something special about 35th and Shields or wherever the park is located now. Probably what, a 20-minute drive from Br. Rice if traffic is light.

If the Sox want Sal Perez so bad, acquire him to be player/manager. Give him 250 at bats. If he's so great for winning/chemistry get rid of Pedro and hire Kessinger, I mean player/manager Sal Perez.

I say trade for Massey and Nicky Lopez of the Braves. Might as well lose with a south sider and Napervillian if we have to lose.

Nice comeback but considering it was against the 44-win Royals, just a lol at falling short at home in Game Two. A split avoids yet another low-water moment of the season had we got swept. Puke.

The Royals have 44 wins. I'm almost positive the most wins against any team would be our pathetic Sox. That would be five or six wins. Sox should be proud.

I think next year the Royals and Sox flip flop records. Sox lucky to win 50-53 games.

He's only 24 (that's good), but he's been horrific (that's bad).

Same with me. I forget my last game that I tuned into on mlb. Quite frankly it makes me feel anger and totally bored to watch our hitters hit and watch our starters do that stupid leg kick after their delivery is over. They need to bring Buehrle in as pitching coach for a couple years (beg him, pay him) and teach guys to pitch as he did. Our hitters have the worst approach and our pitchers blow chunks as they say. If they Sox are gonna be this bad next year they should bring in Veeck's kid and let him come up with some fun promotions to at least make it fun. Not disco records but something to get fans minds off the game.