PitchatRisktoZisk

"Better to keep your mouth closed and appear the fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

The only "take sign" Tony has given in 2 years was to Yermin and he ignored it. Tony decided that was enough of being ignored and went back to sleep.

David Ross thoroughly out-manging our HOF manager. Let that sink in a bit.

Not my banner...... I'm just old!

Not my banner...... I'm just old!

Stop insulting morons!

Other than TA and Vaughn, this team is filled with nothing but 8 and 9 hitters. Utter embarrassment. And of course, the genius manager leaves Ceuto out there an inning too long. This entire board has him out of the game after 6. What a fool.

TLR is an f'ing genius.

I sure hope your life insurance is fully paid. Someone in the stands could get kilt out there tonight.

If we miss the playoffs they will fire the hitting coach, the bullpen coach and maybe the assistant trainer. That's it! TLR is going nowhere. We have shown NO ability to play 21st century baseball (e.g. focus on OPS, launch angle, shifting, etc.). We have a team of DH's and "high floor, low ceiling draft picks designed to "win now". They won't blow anything up and there's no help on the way anytime soon from the lowest rated farm system in baseball. This team as constituted either figures it out or we're stuck in the mud because Jerry isn't buying us out of our troubles. P.S. The only way Hahn loses his job is if there is any truth to the wrongful termination lawsuit in which he's named. It won't be for performance.

Nah, c'mon. You're not serious. Did he really say the D didn't cost us the game? We gave them 30+ outs in 9 innings and probably another 30-40 pitches to play with.

Until Lynn and Cueto pitch and show they're healthy and effective I would not DFA him. I would send him to the pen based on performance and send a message to the team that if you don't perform you lose your job. Hell, use an "opener" in his spot until the other guys are ready. Every game he pitches is a bullpen day anyway, so just make it official.

These two things can both be true: -TLR has forgotten more about baseball than any of us on this board will ever know..... and -TLR has forgotten EVERYTHING he ever knew about baseball and is a complete empty shell on the bench

I'm no doctor, but he clearly did major damage. Obviously hamstring and potential knee issues. Based on his history and body type, I'm guessing torn hamstring and MCL tear.

They don't.

Stand up guy taking the heat for making one bad pitch, while his teammates mail in another "it's too cold for me to give a shit performance".

Understand your comment that blackout rules in the Chicagoland area don't apply to you. However, when the Sox play the Dodgers and Angels are you not blocked out from the Sox broadcast and forced to watch the local feed?

Totally agree. It's 2022, blackouts belong in the 70's with Bill Witrz. Today it has gotten out of control. Try this on for size; living in Hawaii we are 2,500 miles from the closest major league city. We are blacked out for FIVE TEAMS! Dodgers, Angels, Padres, A's, and Giants. Obviously we can't go to the games, so that argument is lame. I can only get the Dodgers and Angels if I pay for the Regional Sports network. I can't get the other three teams ANYWHERE! I'm paying mlb.tv for a fraction of the Sox games I should get. Until Congress strips MLB of the anti trust exemption, this is the crap we're stuck with.

Explains why they are the Orioles and Pirates.

You're more optimistic than me. I don't think he gets out of the first inning.

The trade that brought Kimbrel here in July continues to f up our team. Gave away Madrigal and Heuer, saw Kimbrel implode as most of us knew he would. Now we pick up the option to trade or salvage some face thinking he can be productive. We can't give him away and teams know we're screwed. Eventually, we'll either have $16 million tied up in a bad reliever or trade him for a bucket of balls...... and likely still pay the majority of his contract. The albatross kept us from being more aggressive before the lockout as JR tells RH to go shop in the bargain basement aisle. Get ready for Romy at 2nd and Vaughn in RF. These guys are f'ing up the entire championship window.

I'll give them Lynn despite the fact that the media and people on this board talked about getting Lynn for 18 months before we did it. Rodon was resigning your own guy for nothing in today's market with no other options beyond Lopez. Not exactly like rebuilding your entire outfield at midseason and being a game away from the WS.

You can remove "this season" and be correct every time. Atlanta was dead in the water when they essentially lost their entire outfield. Look what a competent FO can do. I'm beyond jealous.

If that's the crap we might get back in a deal (while still retaining some salary) just shoot me now. I know it's just one guy's opinion and all it takes is one GM/Manager combination to think they can turn him around to strike a good deal. However if this is the garbage we'd get back now, keep him. Hope with an off-season and Spring Training to get his head screwed on right, he could be productive. Otherwise just don't pick up the option and deal with basically giving away Madrigal and Heuer for the next 7-10 years.

No argument, but Tony's not going anywhere. Jerry won't fire him and Tony is enjoying his retirement gig. First class air travel, 5 star hotels, great seats to MLB games. Why would he leave that? He'll never catch Connie Mack, but he's going to make damn sure nobody ever catches him. We're stuck with him until the contention window closes and he stops having fun. There's alot of work to be done but I fear it will all be moot unless we play 21st century ball (shifting, launch angle, managing a pitching staff). Maybe I'll feel better after the ache of watching my boyhood team spit the bit in 3 of 4 games eases.