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Schultz has to go down to work his stuff out. Not sustainable having so many starters going so short. Leaves the mgr with no good option in long run and taxes the good arms too much. I’m fine if Sox stay as is but you got to put Schultz in a better spot. Reality is we saw some improvement from Schultz for 3 innings and like I said he’s going to be good - but he flat out isn’t ready right now to be a big league starter.

Sox are going to score 4 more tonight

I don't disagree with you on the short-term, he is clearly not in a good place and it can be very difficult to get that right at the big league level. On the long-term, I can't get out the past that even this year, he showed elite stuff (and has a track record of that at the minor league level). Right now this feels very much an issue with the pitching development side and they better figure this out. But I do think the elite tools are absolutely there.

Would be very supportive of this move.

It feels like they made changes recently in an effort to improve command - it has come at a cost of "stuff" - but I also wonder if they view it as they can re-unlock that easier, so from a development perspective repeatability / command was priority. As a result, Noah's in the tough spot of actively working on mechanical and development changes at the big league level (as a young pitcher). I think the key is Sox have to manage his "psyche" well and I feel that is a very underrated area where Venable has excelled. I keep reminding myself - Schultz is going to be a stud in the long-run - but in the short run there is more work to do and some of that is going to require a step back. That said, I'd love to see a game where he's just off the charts electric (we saw some of that when he first came up - where the stuff stood out - despite the challenges with command.

Hell yeah! Now let’s go take it to the Yanks!!! Nice to see offense smash some HRs!!!

Time to start a winning streak!!! Let’s go!

I think the whole plan is JR will play bad guy and then after turn the keys over to Ishibia having done a solid for all the owners.

I get it from the cost controlled but giving up one of our top position prospects plus a schult or smith feels steep. Now I would do it for a few of our pitching prospects - but I’m saving our elite positional talent for front end starting pitching or to have on our big league club. If you told me we signed Skubal in the offseason as Ishibias big first move then id be more stoked.

One of the worse games of the season. Flush it and get back at it tomorrow!

Time to battle back here

And we shouldn't - non sensical to move those guys unless you are getting an elite piece in a package. If you want to move guys, you can think about a Smith or Schultz or some of that next wave of pitchers and then you have some of that next wave of positional guys. We have a good system too.

Kyle Teel, I apologize for any curse I put on you due to my posting the day you got hurt. Please let whatever this injury is end up being far less significant and you are back crushing it before we know it. best thoughts going your way

So for someone who started watching in the 6th…what happened to Teel? Non contact meaning tear or any chance this is more a few week injury?

He was pretty darn good and could go deep but I do think he would benefit from how they handle things. Give him and opener and then let him go 6-7. He through innings. And me putting Detmers in same sentence as Javy is really such an utter disgrace to Javy and his 45 WAR. Detmer is a guy who was a high pick with a good arm who has yet to be anything above being a serviceable starter…yet people want to give up 6 years of cost controlled high end prospects…no thank you. Now if we want to give up two from a group of Bergolla, Quero, Mason Adams, Ky Bush, or Oppor…that I think is a more realistic price tag. Not sure if I’d sell low on Quero like that but I’d see fair value here (for the record I think Quero is going to have a good long career).

What am I missing? Guy has almost 100 starts and has put up less than 6 WAR and almost half would be in this season (he is on track for just under 3 WAR). Why am I giving up a top 10 pick like Carlson for him plus something else or a guy like McDougall who I personally think has front of the rotation potential (with health the big question mark) ? If we want to sell Hagen because we think there is more bust…maybe…although I’d be more prone to use Hagen and something else for a player more impactful. I guess I don’t get all these people calling Detmers a front of the rotation guy…he makes Javy Vasquez look like a stud.

And in reality - I don’t think I’d even do that unless my internal grade on him was a lot lower. Detmers could be a guy whose emerged but giving up on a fully controlled guy with swing and miss stuff (albeit he has bust risk) just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me - especially knowing we have Smith and McDpugall hopefully on the way soon.

Way to go!!!

He is still very young - going to take more time until his body develops.

Hagen Smith straight up is as much as I’d offer and even that has some risk. I get Angels may not do that but it’s a high end arm for a solid pitcher with above average stuff closer to free agency…but he isn’t a top of the rotation guy and Smith could be.

Insane. Don’t do it. I’ll give that up for Skubal with an extension but way too much.

They are about to go on a road winning streak!!!

Hard hit or not - the hit the changed the game was the earlier hit so I'm not surprised at all. If Vargas first hit was a double, I still don't think he wins the MVP. Now if the situation was reversed and Vargas was a starter and he hit the HR early in the game to give the Sox a 1-0 lead and then Belly knocked it open later on, than I think it could be a more interesting debate.

Yes - This last part - the broadcast quality was just awful all the way around.

Unless it was my TV - the Netflix audio quality was horrendous.