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QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 12:49 PM) To clarify - yes. That was all sarcasm - I thought I laid it on thick so I didn't use the green font. I love defense as much as anybody and I'd love a Saladino or Engel on my team in a playoff run but they just never will be good enough offensively to make up for it. Also to clarify - someone said they hate when people say they hate the board sometimes. I really don't care. I'm allowed to roll my eyes when people suggest that Engel, who has 28 CAREER homeruns (OVER 5 SEASONS) in the minors is going to suddenly hit 25 a year in the majors. I like this board when I can discuss prospects and the future in a civilized, realistic manner. But I feel like a lot of times the board is just a bunch of topics about _________ hot streak and can they be a piece in our 2019 run to the playoffs? Kevan Smith, Engel, Delmonico, Yolmer, Saladino, etc. etc. None of them will be contributing members yet there have been discussions dedicated to each of these players. (And yes, I know I can be over-reactive the other way. I dismiss all these guys. I have softened on Delmonico as a contributing member in the future -- but only as a bench player at best IMO And you contribute to this civility by telling everyone here how much you hate them. Seems reasonable.

QUOTE (Superstar Lamar @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 12:17 PM) I just don't understand the mindset of attending this thing I enjoyed the heck out of going. It is like comicon for baseball fans. But they priced me out.

Sounds like a backdoor deal to punt the debt ceiling to December might have been reached.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) I find it kinda odd how much we heard about Sanchez' arm being a detriment to being a true utility player (playing SS), and yet I've been watching him throw ropes from 3rd base every game. Sanchez playing all infield positions makes him absolutely bench player #1. He's too good and valuable to young pitchers. Just spitballing (leaving C out as thats a bit different beast) LF Cordell? CF L Garcia RF A Garcia 3b Davidson SS Anderson 3b Yoan 1b Abreu DH Delmonico Next tier priority Yolmer Cordell Gillaspie Fight it out W Garcia Engel Saladino Hansen Tilson (hahaha jk) Peterson Liriano J Peter If you are currently in that Fight It Out tier and in the big leagues, I'd just soak it in. This one is dead.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) The sox haven't tried enough high school pitchers over HS 15 years to have a rightful claim to say they are bad at it. They have failed with just as many college pitchers. They have failed with college hitters. They have failed with HS hitters. HS pitchers are riskier bets and I can't say I'd be thrilled to take a HS pitcher in top 5 over the other types (College P, HS position, College position), but in that 11-25 range I'd be happy to try HS pitchers more. We didn't draft that many HS pitchers because we were too cheap to pay up for them. We drafted a lot of bad college pitchers because we were too cheap to pay for better. The new structure should help us a lot and get a better sense of how much was bad player dev and how much was poor talent from 2000-2012. It is also where their biggest successes have lied for a long time now.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 11:40 AM) TBH I think Yolmer is now a tier above Saladino/Engel. Saladino I think is just destroyed due to injuries. Engel may survive more in the bigs just due to our lack of CF options. As of today, I would easily put Sanchez ahead of the other two as he can hit a respectable amount, and is a very good fielder all over the infield. Engel is a suspect until he can hit even a minimal amount. Sally has to prove he can stay healthy.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 10:13 AM) Just goes to show how much a legit plus tool like fielding will get you in terms of fan patience while still a project at the plate. Just being "passable" at a position like CF, such as May, gets you no where. Adam's fall was disappointing. Glad he got a chance, but I don't think his constant tinkering will ever work. The injuries in the second half really sucked, because Engel pretty much got put into a situation where he had to play every single day. There was no playing match ups to get him optimal exposure and to bring him along slowly. The kid has gotten one day off in the last month. Engel looked much better early on when Renteria had more options to play the match ups game a little bit easier with guys like Leury around.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 10:12 AM) Tim Anderson has put up a .723 OPS in the 2nd half of the season and is coming off a really strong 6 weeks. He also had a cup of coffee last year where he put up a near 3 WAR in At the very least Anderson goes into camp as the clear leader, with someone else needing to largely beat him out to change that.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 10:19 PM) This sucks. Went from 4-6 games a day down to one. Sad panda. Does anyone broadcast winter ball from the Caribbean or Oz? Would be awesome to watch some baseball over the winter. I miss baseball way too much during the off season. Maybe you can pick up the munchkin feed?

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 10:04 AM) Oddly Adam Engel is Brian Anderson reincarnate so cut the guy some slack. You know, you are spot on with that comp too.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 08:36 PM) Comcast is the best internet. Thats the rub By far. I am pulling down 175Mb for internet.

QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 08:37 AM) The fear comes alongside the White Sox track record with high school pitchers. The only successful pitcher the Sox have drafted from high school in the top 5 rounds since 2002 was Gio Gonzales. One success in 15+ years. The other logic behind it is the "window for opportunity". Seth Beer has a chance to help the roster in 2019. A high school pitcher likely wouldn't be up until 2020 at the very earliest, unless they are a superstar out of the gate. With that said, just get the BPA and plan on competing for years. If Singer is there, its almost a no brainer at this point. Reminds me of Kerry Wood in his better days. If that is the case, they don't exactly have a great record with college hitters either.

I guess the biggest surprise here is that with a Daley at the helm, Chicago couldn't manage to out-bribe Rio. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/world/am...on.html?mcubz=1

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 08:42 AM) $20 Mon-Sat, $10 on Sundays (Family Sundays). Definitely the cheapest of the Chicago professional teams. As are their ticket prices.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 09:39 AM) I just think if Tyler Saladino could hit .270 with 25HR he would be a good fit. Same with Yolmer. You know who else impresses me in the minors? Eddy Alvarez.. if he could hit .250 with 25hrs he could be our next SS for 5-7 years. I can't stand this board sometimes. Adam Engel makes a nice catch and all of a sudden we go goo goo ga ga over him. He's never hit more than 7 hr's in a season. He's not figuring it out now at 25 years old. He should be happy he's in the Sox organization when they suck cause he wouldn't sniff the majors if he was on 25 other MLB orginizations. He should be happy that he can tell his grandkids he played in the MLB and that he accrued MLB time and is on the 40 man roster and gets a nice bump in AAA for a while. Other than that? Sorry. His biggest role EVER on a contending team should be in September to be a late inning defensive guy for like 1 inning total. Or running the bases. But in two years when we are hopefully good? He's 27. And guess what? You can find his speed elsewhere readily and you can find defense almost anywhere too. Engel can be throw into the pile with almost everybody on this team ... thanks for being a warm body and playing mlb baseball for a year and a half. I can't stand it when people say this... yet here you are.

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I would love Engel to be able to hit, even a minimal amount.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 05:20 PM) If you could exchange notes with a 5 time champ, wouldn't you? Well, apparently they need more work because they keep getting caught.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 05:08 PM) Gotta figure that draft picks will be part of the equation, maybe even something with international free agency. Cannot imagine they will have to forfeit games, although something so punitive would definitely have a deterrent effect. The Red Sox already had to give up an entire international class because of cheating down there. Apparently they have been exchanging notes with the Patriots.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 04:39 PM) He was considered a major reach at the time as well I believe He was an overdraft to save dollars for later picks. He was projected to go out around #20 IIRC>