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I think this is it in a nutshell. Hawk and Stone are baseball lifers who just know from experience. Jason is a sports junkie who researches like crazy whatever he doesn't know. I haven't gotten either vibe from John

That asshole?

He's not being fired. Try again.

Yes, because no existing stadiums of Big 4 sports franchises exist around rail yards. It's not like the most famous arena in the entire United States of America was built on top of literally the busiest passenger train station in the country in New York City, right? Why do you insist on just making stuff up to get mad about?

At this time last year everyone had Shane Smith penciled in as the Ace of the Staff.

This. First you need the train yard stuff done. It is 2026 and we are still in the arguing about it phase. I mean MAYBE you get shovels in the ground at some point next year, but my guess is that 28 is more realistic to do all of the background work that needs to be done such as environmental studies, etc. So then you are probably taking to 2029, at least, if not 30 to get the yard done, then after they vacate the Railyards, THEN the team starts that whole process over again for remediation and such on their own site before they can get to work on building an actual stadium. I would think the 2033 season is a realistic goal to open a new Sox park with all of the moving parts. THEN the Bears could start on their stadium. We are probably talking 10ish years from today for them to move in.

Good point, we are probably talking something like 2035 before those dominos all can fall in order.

THE BEARS CANT LEAVE THE LAKE FRONT, THEY ARE A LAKE FRONT TEAM!!! HOW DARE THEY!

That's not a bad comp. Their fans know what is coming.

FWIW, I went up to the beach today in Michigan City and got this picture from our Zoo. Hammond is about half as far to Chicago.

I mean this is the story of Tommy Pham for how many years now? Dude hasn't put up a full season positive fWAR (literally anything above 0) since 2019, and there is always is.

Well luckily no one gloated about it, so you don't have to fake moral superiority.

Right, because you weren't just out here campaigning for Colson Montgomery to lose his. GMAB.

This is house money. Hopefully all of you believers put up and made a lot of money, because it was free money for those who believed all along. Just remember Gage and Soxtalk with those millions.

I mean I guess I get it, as I have stayed in my hometown to work remotely when I could probably double my salary (or more) if I was willing to take on an office job in NYC on a daily basis. But Cleveland? I am going to go with my man Jo Noah on this one.

Exactly. We NEED people at the ballpark if we want to play with the big boys long term.

"Put out feelers about replacements..." Yeah buddy!

The Cubs would draw 3 million people if they had the Sox 2024. It's been almost 30 years since they drew UNDER 2.5 million.

I think they all didn't realize that this was the 90s when Billionaire Welfare was at its peak in Chicago, and they were just going to waltz in and get whatever they wanted.

Cleveland has kind of destroyed their fan base over the last 20 years. They know not to get too comfortable, because pretty much anyone who is good is getting dealt when they get expensive. The only exception was Ramirez who took a massive haircut to stay, for some dumb reason.

"If you can't keep it in the strike zone, keep it in your pants!"

It also looks really bad that Ishbia waltzed in off the sidelines and got an insanely complex set of moving parts going to get his stadium done, when the Bears still can't figure WTF they are doing.

You would think so, but that would mean an extra $100 million-ish in revenue, and they sure haven't acted like.

Nah, right out the back exit of the exchange. I was more of a Hole in the Wall kind of guy than Ceres.

Obvious move is obvious. They are obviously trying to find him his next job.