Dick Allen

They can get guys desperate for jobs, but one year, and basically the entire coaching staff gets cleaned out, and a guy who everyone knows will be fired probably within a year, is going to be a hard sell for quality coaches who have shown their worth. That's why if you want a quality coaching staff, you need to bring in a new manager. Look for more KC castaways.

He's intimidated by vets, but can be a bully to rookies and he basically admits it. No good. He is a bad manager.

What he screws up is any progress the team can make in 2024. They will need more than some.

I didn’t understand burning the time out. Kicking the FG does put a little more pressure on them, but I’m not going to say going for it was a disastrous idea. That defense had given up almost 100 points on less than 2 games at that point, and you make it, you pretty much guarantee victory. The play call at least wasn’t Kmet taking the snap. I was there. I know I shouldn’t be, but I am still shocked they lost.

So never in Chicago sports history have the Bulls, Bears, Cubs, White Sox, and Blackhawks all played .500 the same season.

Is he willing to move to catcher?

I get that, and I mentioned it a while back, but if they next year fire Pedro, which seems at least 95% likely, the fans who knew he was no good now aren't going to give them any credit for it. Fire Pedro. Bring someone else in. Fans won't expect wins right away, and if somehow it happens, the front office bought itself credibility.

It really makes no sense. These guys didn't do their job, but Pedro did? The way Pedro talked about it, it almost seemed like he's oblivious to the fact that he has no chance of returning with most teams. He's not a leader. He's a brown noser who will say anything to keep a job.

This is correct.In September, I didn't see him correct anything he was doing wrong in April. Picks on rookies. He's a fraud. It seems hard to believe they will get rid of most of the coaches he wanted, and keep him.

On his last AB, Gavin Sheets had the OFs misplay his last pop up to give him his first hit of the season against a LHP and get his average for the season over .200.

Don't give them any ideas.

He does have a point. If this is what it took to get rid of KW and RH, it very well may be worth it.

The amount of White Sox people who have said they wouldn't be surprised TA bounces back to his highest levels next year has convinced me there is no chance of it happening.

I really doubt Boston and Hassler cost the White Sox wins this year. I know Pedro did.

He's clearly all talk. He will be fired in the next calendar year. If you really think your team could be interesting at all in 2024, for good reasons, you better fire him before the season starts.

If yesterdays game doesn’t convince Poles, the flus is the wrong guy, nothing will. Most NFL coaches, and all the good ones, don’t come close to losing that game. Everyone knew what was coming once Denver, a team that lost by 50 last week made it 28-14.

I love how Pedro mentions results oriented and he’s going to make changes, yet he stays.He did none of what he said he was going to do. From the first day of spring training until the last game of the year, he failed. Bullpen coach demoted, that I’ll make a difference….I think with KW gone, DBo is finally at the end of the line. That will probably be it. They probably all should go. there is nothing to indicate Pedro improved as a manager from March to October. To expect him to be something better moving forward, is based on what the White Sox usually base these things on, nothing. You cannot be an owner who wants to win, or a GM who is trying to win and have Pedro Grifol as your manager, unless you just haven't paid attention and love brown nosers.

Forget no other team would hire him. Now you have a year of his work to evaluate. Other than the White Sox, who would ever hire Pedro Grifol to be their manager? The fact that Getz is bringing him back shows you he knows no more than the guys who were fired. More of the same. Enjoy your final years with empty parks, and a lot of losing JR.

Of course, but if the guys covering some of those spots were the reason they were losing, getting rid of them should help. This team just doesn’t want to admit they stunningly overvalued their talent. This new guy thinks they have stars. Maybe if they played in AAA.

If Bob Melvin gets canned and the White Sox don’t at least inquire, they have no hope.

The White Sox stated more than once they fixed their clubhouse problem at the trade deadline. Yet they continue to lose.

Robert is a star. Other than that.....no stars. If he really believes this, I am going to go out on a limb and say this guy will ultimately be considered a bad hire. He can't be this delusional.

You have a team you expect to win the division, and instead it loses 100 games. How does this dope not get fired? He is a huge part of clearing the stench.

I disagree with Robert. I think until he was pulled from the game earlier this year, your statement was accurate. But something happened after that. He actually hustles out most ground balls now. His defense by walls has improved dramatically. There are still flaws, but trading him especially if you suggest another team won’t pay the price , just makes another mistake. More often than not, when guys of Robert’s ilk get traded, the only thing the team really gains in the long run is some salary relief. Look at the Sox with their 3. They actually did better than most, but most here hate Moncada, hate Kopech, think Cease sucks, want Eloy traded, think Giolito is done, and wanted ReyLo gone years ago. Might as well keep a guy who could be a star of stars if things align properly.

If they really think they can be decent next year, they cannot bring him back. Bringing him back signals they know they are going to suck with players they don't figure to be around when they expect to be good. If anyone here owns a business and hired someone who was as bad at their job as Pedro is as an MLB manager, they would have fired them long ago, and chances are the role isn't as critical.