Dick Allen

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 06:14 PM) Flowers' offense wouldn't be a problem if he was good defensively. He's not a good defensive catcher. He is not terribke and he ranks really high pitch framing. One thing is for sure, once Flowers is gone, pitch framing will start to count around here.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 05:51 PM) I think Flowers gets a bad rep more than most because he's been with the organization since 2009. Plus remember when he was acquired, everyone thought the Sox got this great offensive hitter. He's been a huge disappointment, but like a lot of people have said in this thread - he's not the biggest problem for the Sox. There really aren't many "great" catchers in baseball at the moment. White Sox catchers collective WAR is higher than the Royals catchers collective WAR, and no ime here would think C is a huge need in KC. I think you hit the nail on the head. There are 3 catchers putting up at least a 2 WAR right now.

If Kane really raped someone, an NHL suspension would be the least of his worries. He wouldn't be playing.

Soto and Phegley each have a higher WAR than Sal Perez.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) I wouldn't be very surprised if someone claimed him. No way. He probably will get traded after he clears, but the Red Sox are picking up a lot of the $$$$, and not getting much back.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) I am real, dude. The NFL punishes people who settle or are cleared. I expect the NHL to do the same. If Kane gets charged, I agree, he isn't playing while awaiting trial. But he either will be charged or cleared before the season starts.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) $16 million this year, then he becomes a free agent. Blistering .701 OPS too He will have no problem clearing waivers. If someone claims him, the Red Sox will be doing an Irish jig.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 02:55 PM) He's not going to clear waivers. What does he get paid?

QUOTE (Baron @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) I was not one of those people at all. Heck even at his age AJ is having a very nice year for Atlanta. I imagine he's not gonna play much longer. But so far that decision was a mistake and it's still ongoing. It was a mistake, but it didn't cost the White Sox any trophies. Finding a really good catcher who can hit and play defense is a trick GMs pretty much luck into.

QUOTE (Baron @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) His defense hasnt been good. He's hitting has been awful to say the least. His pitch framing doesnt count into WAR which shows he isnt average. He's just bad. But we cant do anything about it until December. I mean Soto could get more starts or more time batting at DH. But that would be too logical for this coaching staff. As soon as Soto started playing more, his numbers would decline. Flowers used to be that guy. People couldn't wait for AJ to leave.

Flowers sucks, but the difference between him and a typical catcher these days isn't enough to bring out all the disdain. He's not good, but look at the catchers in baseball. There aren't many who are. I was at a game vs. KC a couple Sundays ago, and the Sox were stinking up the joint. a guy a section over put up with everyone sucking except when Flowers struck out he couldn't help himself. It seems to be a theme in Soxville. If Flowers was the Sox biggest problem, Robin would be getting his rotation set for the playoffs right now.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) If the rumor that the woman was very young is true, the camera doesn't help. The issue could be a matter of consent or her age, which is grey and a camera doesn't necessarily help. I think that was a false rumor, but a girl can look 40, show you an ID that says she is 40, and if you have sex with her and she really is underage, you still are looking at a lot of trouble.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) There was a stat last year that the Sox had like an under .333 winning percentage when Nieto caught. Once it was broken down, it turned out he had zero Sale/Quintana starts and solely caught Danks/Noesi/Carroll/Rienzo and company, which explained it all. 6-26 in his starts. I guess that explains it.

QUOTE (HuskyCaucasian @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 12:29 PM) I think the problem is proof of rape. Proof of sex is easy, proof that it was not consensual is hard, especially if it was a one-on-one situation with no one around. On a side note, Kane has his demons, and has done some not so great things, but he's NEVER struck me as a rapist. I dont think he needs to force himself on a woman to have sex. Obviously we have no idea with this current case, but as Rock pointed out, it usually is a case of next morning regret. They get questioned, they point out how this can ruin the guy's life so they have to be really sure what they are claiming happened, happened, and usually it just goes away. If he did rape her, I hope they throw the book at him, or anyone who commits the crime. I am just saying most of the time, what happened is deemed to not be criminal.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) I guess he's good if being five games over .500 is someone's definition of good. Catching is one area the Sox badly need to upgrade. Mark 5 games over vs. 19 or 20 games under in fewer appearances. I think it's significant. I am as sick of seeing Flowers strike out as anyone, but there is something to the staff throwing to him.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 12:45 PM) Is that stat flawed from the perspective of who he catches? He clearly gets all of Sale's starts, which helps his odds and I think he probably starts less of Danks games, which again would help those odds. Sox are 27-20 in Sale starts. 23-29 in Danks starts the last 2 years. Flowers does catch Danks, at least usually, and hasn't caught Shark. I just think pitchers like throwing to him.

A neighbor of mine is a cop and he once told me I wouldn't believe how many rape accusations are made in Lincoln Park every weekend. Very few are ever actually charged.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) Rumors now that is a rape allegation for Patrick Kane. Teresa Weakly tweeted about it, then deleted it. But now, another buffalo news reporter Tim Graham has tweeted it. Tim Graham ‏@ByTimGraham 9m9 minutes ago The Patrick Kane investigation is a rape investigation. That could solve the cap space problem.

They can talk mechanics all they want with Avi. It comes down to swinging at pitches he can actually hit hard, unless he's in protection mode. If he figures that out, he will be really good. If he doesn't, he'll be what he is.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) Ah yes, I am sure you would have been all aboard with Semien at DH this season. I could see it now, all of your posts talking about how it was such a brilliant move to take a 23 year old infielder and turn him into a DH. I also like how you cherry picked the error totals and ignored the other significant offensive numbers that have simply fallen off the table since his hot start. But what do I know, I am no Billy Beane If you were Josh Donaldson for Brett Lawrie would seem like a good idea

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 09:54 AM) Because by advanced metrics, Marcus is still pretty bad at defense at short. And in small sample sizes, he was bad at 3B and bad at 2B when he was a White Sox. The White Sox don't miss the guys they gave up for Samardjiza. We complain about Avi Garcia who is a year younger than Semien, but he only walks 1 less time per 100 plate appearances. Marcus' selectivity has taken a dive.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) Oh yea, September call up numbers are to be taken at their face value. And Semien sure has proven that wrong this season with is 100 error pace and rapidly falling batting average, slugging percentage, and OPS SOMEONE CALL DAN JOHNSON Also love the park excuse. I wonder why his road numbers are worse than his home numbers. Semien has been one of the worst players in baseball, if not the worst since Memorial day.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 09:01 AM) How was the plug pulled too quickly on these two? And the funny thing is, in June and July, Semien was a worse player than Carlos Sanchez. Anyone can look it up.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) He is not an easy guy to double up. Force at home is the play unless it is a tailor made DP ball

Obvious move. Avi needs to do something here. Actually thinking RF is a good idea. No DP please.