nickofypres

I may have asked this previously, but I can't recall, but if I did I apologize. Anyway they can lowball Danks but make the trader take Rios too? Similar to with the Marlins with Beckett and Lowell? I guess the only real snag in that is that Danks is a FA after next season.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 12:08 PM) Same here. I'm a pretty casual football fan. 16 Bears games a season, and I honestly still don't watch every one of them. I've never been a big Bears fan, and I think I've become disenchanted with the franchise. The more I watch them and the more I listen to the majority (not all) of fans, I realize they're way too much like the Cubs for me to care about them. Every year I've liked the Bears more and more. Started liking them in 2005. I try to watch every game that is on locally here in Toledo or on the national broadcasts. This year I got my highest total of 9. I'm really only die-hard Bears fan during the Sox off-season. NFL off-season is pretty meh to me, probably because I don't know a lot about other teams and other plays (except the stars and well-known players). But I agree that the Bears front office and most casual Bears fans have the same mindset of the Tribune era of the Cubs. "Who cares if we win or lose? They'll fill up Soldier Field every week regardless", and most casuals probably only know Urlacher, Hester, Forte and Cutler. Blackhawks (probably third favorite after Sox and Bears respectively), like with the Bears, I'll eyeball them first half of the season, check the scores, check the standings, know the roster, but I really don't get sucked in until after the Bears end. Not because I don't care, but with school, work, etc takes up a lot of time (Bears play on my only day off). Maybe that makes me a bad fan. I don't know, I don't care. Same with the Bulls.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 27, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) 7.7 Ozzie is gone. Dunn and Rios CAN'T play as bad as they did last year. Hopeful about a Quentin trade and a full year of Viciedo. Ozzie is gone. I still believe in Beckham's potential and Morel progressing a bit. Healthy Peavy. Ozzie Guillen is gone. Agreed.

Sox are rumored to be at suitor for Josh Willingham. I highly doubt it because they would have to move Quentin and bench De Aza. Both moves I don't see happening.

Since the Sox will only trade for Major League talent, is it safe assume the Sox will probably field the same team next season that is on the current 25 man roster? Assuming of course they don't trade off Danks, Floyd, Quentin, etc

I'm fine with them going at it again with almost the same team. Maybe they just needed a new voice in the clubhouse. Maybe Rios and Dunn won't completely suck again?

Sox beat writer for CSN Chicago thinks payroll will be in the 120 range.

Thank you.

Peavy, Sale, Stewart, Humber and Axelrod in 2012? Oh boy.....

Whats Frasor's option anyway? And any chance its picked up?

Dave Martinez would be my first choice since it seems like Francona coming here is all but dead. Especially after Maddon praised him so.

I wonder how they handle Flowers. Platoon with AJ? Start him? Rotate him at C, first and maybe even DH?

"Please Come Back".

For Sure Santos Crain Ohman Dolsi maybe Thornton (trade bait?) Maybe Sale (move to rotation?)

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 08:04 PM) Seriously? I'm sure you wouldn't say the same thing if it were your wife that he attacked. Oney could have easily just mocked how bad Teahen is at baseball. He went after the guy's wife. Always the wrong choice. +1

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 01:47 AM) ROFL @ Jason Marquis. Do the Tigers even have the prospects in their system to get Ubaldo? I mean, literally, if Dombrowski said "Take whatever and however much you want that isn't on the major league roster," could the Rockies scrape together enough? No. Their farm is almost as bad as ours.

I wouldn't call up Viciedo out of fear that Walker taints him.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 10:45 PM) Kenny did a brilliant job building the 05 squad, but he's a joke now and his baseball card collecting of players and free agents instead of organizational development and patience (which may be partly our fault) has become the albatross of the Sox org....we're a dying franchise...we are loaded with old, slow, overrated and overplaid players. Humber, Floyd, Danks, Santos, Sale, Santiago, Flowers, Beckham, Viciedo, Ramirez, Morel, Lillibridge and Quentin say hi. Crain, Ohman are reasonably signed. Konerko, Peavy, Dunn, Rios, Buerhle, Pierre, Teahen, Vizquel, Castro and Pierzynski are slow, overrated and overplaid players. But to be fair if Dunn, Rios and Peavy were performing their career norms the money invested wouldn't be such a big deal, and did anyone really expect Dunn and Rios to drop off? I didn't. After this season Pierre, Castro, Buerhle, Jackson and Vizquel are off the books and after next season Teabag and AJ are off the books. So we're not exactly screwed down the road. If we can get another starter for next season I think we'd be okay till we're relieved of the money after 2012, then our only major investments are Peavy, Rios, Dunn and Konerko, and by then Peavy, Rios and Dunn could, and I'd hope they would be, back to producing again and we'll still have Santos, Sale, Santiago, Flowers, Beckham, Viciedo, Ramirez, Morel, Lillibridge. Basically a few starters, a bench and a bullpen arm or two.

Miguel Tejada.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 11:45 PM) No, you want to trade Danks + Floyd to try and get talent in return. Sale will be in the rotation and Buehrle will probably resign. What would we realistically get for them though? We're not going to get much back for Floyd, Jackson and Danks. Are we going to get three starters or MLB-ready starters in return? I don't think the Sox are as bad off next season like a lot of folks do. Side question: Isn't Sale's mechanics not good for starting? I thought I remember that being an issue last season. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 11:45 PM) Beachy isn't a minor leaguer, he's a MLB pitcher. Whoops. My bad.

De Aza > Pierre.

If they can move Quentin for Beachy do it. Quentin and Pierre can be replaced with Viciedo and De Aza, and Beachy can go into the rotation with Danks, Floyd, Peavy and Humber.

whom is realistically tradable? I think to anwser that you have to look at seasons coming down the road. The White Sox only have four starters signed going into next season with Jackson and Buehrle being free agents, so looking at that you certainly don't trade Danks, Floyd, Peavy or Humber. You can move either Jackson or Buehrle however, but given the two, Jackson is much more likely to be moved.Rumors are swirling that the Yankees, and other teams, are calling for Edwin Jackson. White Sox will probably want either MLB-ready player or a regular starter from the Yankees or anyone else for that matter. I would love Brett Gardner on the South Side but just Jackson probably wouldn't cut it Looking at the line-up, the White Sox have most of them coming back next season with only Pierre being a free agent after this season. However, after 2011 Carlos Quentin is a free agent. If you move Quentin, you have to find someone to replace him, obviously. You assume Viciedo replaces Pierre, and you can probably put Alejandro De Aza in for Quentin if he's moved. The White Sox could also want to resign him with roughly 14 million coming off the payroll after 2012. Rumor was flying that Carlos Quentin could be sent to Atlanta for minor league starter Brandon Beachy. Looking at his stats, adding Beachy would be a solid pick up, but then you lose a guy who usually has a high OBP, and when heathy, a guy who can club hit you around 25 home runs. Plus you still have Edwin Jackson. If they do move Quentin then don't re-sign Pierre this offseason, which they wont, then Sox can put two young pieces in the two corner spots in De Aza and Viciedo. Its kind of lame that four players take up 55MM on the payroll, but if they produce then you're getting what you pay for. If not, then its dead money. And so far only Konerko is being what we paid for. I assume Quentin is getting moved because even though they can probably re-sign him after next season, I don't think they do I reckon they're content with Viciedo in RF and its less money the brass has to shell out, and I assume Jackson is moved because he's not resigning and they want something for him instead of letting him walk.

Sox go 25-45 and finish 69-93 Ozzie is given an extension.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:30 PM) I don't agree at all. This team is loaded with talent. The potential is there. +1